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There is no denying that Dingwall is a cult phenomenon. The lack of print advertising is conspicuous, to a member of the cult, at least. I look at issue after issue of Bass Player, as much as I can stand, and I see ad after ad for basses, but I don't recall seeing a Dingwall ad in a long time, just an occasional review.

However, I'm not sure I would like to see a higher public profile for Dingwall, and that may be a wish already fulfilled. I believe that if fanned frets were going to hit big, with many people switching from straight frets, we would have seen it happen by now. The trend is apparently much more subtle. We know that Dingwalls are not for everybody. They're kinda' scary when you first see them, and I know that many people must look and say, "No way". I see that as a good thing.

It's an odd feeling to learn that Fender is making Bennedettos and Kubickis. I'm not ready for the scratch-fronters to design my Dingwalls. We might not see basses like fullrange's Z were that to happen.

Sheldon, no doubt, has thoughts on all this, but I totally understand if he wants to defer commentary on the mad ramblings of a cult member.

Hey now,

Mark
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We all agree we are Dingwall-struck.

And i totally agree that a big-buck-high-end-bass is not always a pleasure to hold play and hear. I'ts just that i was comparing each bass, that i was intending to buy, head to head with some of my other basses. And if the new bass did not cut it, it did not join the herd!

Of course here i see the beggining of a new topic "what are we looking for in a bass and how did we choose the ones we've got" (and i am sure that a Dingwall will be appearing somewhere along in everyone's story!!!). It will give an insight on each member's approach to choosing a bass (and ultimately a Dingwall)
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[quote="guitarded":1nhfuil8]There is no denying that Dingwall is a cult phenomenon. The lack of print advertising is conspicuous, to a member of the cult, at least. I look at issue after issue of Bass Player, as much as I can stand, and I see ad after ad for basses, but I don't recall seeing a Dingwall ad in a long time, just an occasional review.

However, I'm not sure I would like to see a higher public profile for Dingwall, and that may be a wish already fulfilled. I believe that if fanned frets were going to hit big, with many people switching from straight frets, we would have seen it happen by now. The trend is apparently much more subtle. We know that Dingwalls are not for everybody. They're kinda' scary when you first see them, and I know that many people must look and say, "No way". I see that as a good thing.

It's an odd feeling to learn that Fender is making Bennedettos and Kubickis. I'm not ready for the scratch-fronters to design my Dingwalls. We might not see basses like fullrange's Z were that to happen.

Sheldon, no doubt, has thoughts on all this, but I totally understand if he wants to defer commentary on the mad ramblings of a cult member.

Hey now,

Mark[/quote:1nhfuil8]


Well...I'm not so sure. I'm definitely not saying that I hope that your average 'big instrument company' starts making Dingwall knockoffs. Besides, I think that the Novax patent lasts until 2008 (although I bet a bit of quick legal work might find the patent invalid, as fanned fret instruments have been built for centuries).

What I'm getting at, is that instead of diluting the 'brand name' Dingwall, it would be nice to see a recognition of the instrument in the way that Smith, MTD, and Furlanetto, Sadowsky, Pedulla see...ie., in the world of 'high end' basses.

Although I do think that it probably wouldn't be an awful thing to see happen what MTD has done with their licensed range... A lot of people seem to want a sub 1K fanned fret bass. 1K seems to be the magic number for people looking for 'entry level' fanned fret basses, especially with the new late 05 pricing on Afterburners.
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[quote:qjv7p8c1]What I'm getting at, is that instead of diluting the 'brand name' Dingwall, it would be nice to see a recognition of the instrument in the way that Smith, MTD, and Furlanetto, Sadowsky, Pedulla see...ie., in the world of 'high end' basses[/quote:qjv7p8c1]

And how do you see this happening? As I said, I think it would have happened by now, if it was going to. It's obvious that the fanned fret design is the self-limiting factor in Dingwall becoming a household name in the high-end bass market. Until Sheldon markets a regularly fretted bass, I think Dingwall is destined for continued obscurity when compared to the popularity of other high-end instruments.

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I think it's up to us to give Sheldon the exposure he deserves.

He made the cut into producing a dream come true: a huge sounding, full range, balanced, in-tune intrument (let it be Prima, Z1, Z2, AB, ABII or super J); but unless people hear what these instruments are capable of doing, they will not convert out of their "safety zone". Most people are crazy about vintage instruments mainly out of growing up with them. If we don't show them what we know they will have no idea.

All the gigs and recordings i do are with my Dingwalls (i drag some other basses along but never my Dingwalls are topped).

My passive Prima sound (at a gig) was labeled equal to the sounds Mike Pope produced few nights ago in the very same place; that comment was expressed out of the blue, by discerning musicians (bass players and other musicians alike). i am not comparing myself to any of the great bass players, but i imagine what comments would the Prima attract if i could play the bass at that level!!!

Let's show the world what Dingwall can do
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[quote:3255m8j4] A lot of people seem to want a sub 1K fanned fret bass. 1K seems to be the magic number for people looking for 'entry level' fanned fret basses, especially with the new late 05 pricing on Afterburners.[/quote:3255m8j4]

Bass Northwest will sell an AB1-4 without the flame top and with the case for under $1200. You would likely have to move production overseas to make them profitable at less than $1K. At less than $1000, I'm buying one per year! Maybe it will happen.

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[quote="guitarded":3c3c42zl][quote:3c3c42zl] A lot of people seem to want a sub 1K fanned fret bass. 1K seems to be the magic number for people looking for 'entry level' fanned fret basses, especially with the new late 05 pricing on Afterburners.[/quote:3c3c42zl]

Bass Northwest will sell an AB1-4 without the flame top and with the case for under $1200. You would likely have to move production overseas to make them profitable at less than $1K. At less than $1000, I'm buying one per year! Maybe it will happen.

Mark[/quote:3c3c42zl]

Exactly.

That's why I pointed out MTD. They have several lines, including, of course, their ones made in Woodstock. But several others are made outside of the US and then QC is done in the US. Ken Smith has done KSD with a slightly different business model. He designed the bass, and a non-affiliated company makes, markets and sells them. It seems like this has had a mixed result without him having full QC. Now Sadowsky has the Metro line, which are made in Japan, but all basses pass through his shop for set-up and QC...obviously you pay more for the attention, but people seem to be quite happy with them...not to mention that they cost the same as a AB.
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Bought used off ebay, ( without ever playing/hearing one. :o ) early '05 and has yet to need any adjustments, ( including string change.) Great strings btw... Im very discriminative about my strings, but so far these are a perfect match to the bass and my playing style.

She may not be the prettiest, ( + the pic doesnt do her any justice.) but she's faithful and never gives me any problems... :D

Cannot give enough praise for the combination of form and function from a bass in this price range. It provides everything I want and nothing I dont. :D
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I thinks "she's" very beautiful! The new afterburner series with th toggle switch instead of a put/pull volume button and a 3 piece laminate neck. And ofcourse the (i thinks its) classical honey amber burst finish!
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Thanks Erwin. Im just partial to natural/clear finishes and think the burst finishes look much better with a quilt or flame top. ( like yours. :wink: )

Its all good; I will just have to save up for another. :lol:
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[quote="My boy guitarded":rzhk6xit]Hey, Magic. Whats up? No disrespect, brother, you know that. [/quote:rzhk6xit]
Yes sir! I'm just messin' with you, bro. :lol:

[quote="My boy guitarded ALSO":rzhk6xit]I thought your main thing was guitar, but I know you do it all (guys that play everything amaze me - I've only been able to get a gig playing bass! :wink: ) [/quote:rzhk6xit]
Actually.., these days I'm doing more keys than I am guitar :( . But I still get my fair share of guitar when I'm recording or producing someone [img:rzhk6xit]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/045.gif[/img:rzhk6xit].

[quote="Then my boy guitarded":rzhk6xit]We love the cds. You should see my daughter dancing to UT with the Advents cranked![/quote:rzhk6xit]
Thank you, my brother [img:rzhk6xit]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/540.gif[/img:rzhk6xit]. That means a lot to me. I'll send you the new CD as soon as its completed.., we're almost there [img:rzhk6xit]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/fingers/fing02.gif[/img:rzhk6xit]. Just a few songs left to mix. Our Christmas single is out again.., and I would love for you all to take a listen in your spare time (as if anyone has spare time these days :lol: ). It's our way of saying "Happy Holidays" to all of you wonderful people here on this forum. I, and everyone else in the band, have loved this song since childhood.., so we thought we'd do our "Tribal" rendition of this holiday classic. We recorded it last year, and it has become the #1 requested Xmas song here in Austin as well as some areas of the UK. We are very grateful for that. I humbly offer this song to you all as a token of good cheer during this holiday season.., I hope you enjoy it! Here's the link; http://www.unifiedtribe.net/audio/Unifi ... ghRide.mp3


[quote="My boy guitarded ALSO":rzhk6xit]The bass kills. I've ordered another, and am planning a third. Crazy, huh?[/quote:rzhk6xit]
Absolutely [i:rzhk6xit]NOT[/i:rzhk6xit], my brother. You'd be crazy [i:rzhk6xit]NOT[/i:rzhk6xit] to order another one, if you can swing it :) . I [i:rzhk6xit]LOVE[/i:rzhk6xit] Sheldon's work. He's one of my heroes!!!

[quote="And THEN my boy guitarded":rzhk6xit]There's a guy in Austin, fookgub, on this board that's looking to play a Dingwall. Do you know anybody with one in the city? Message fook, if so.[/quote:rzhk6xit]
Nah.., I don't know of anyone in this city with a Dingwall. I was the only one in this city with one at the time :) .., until I made the mistake of selling it :( . But since I had to sell it, I'm glad it was to you, Mark. I know she has a good home with you, my brother. Is she married yet? Does she have any little Dingwall babies that I should know about? :lol: .

[quote="And FINALLY my boy guitarded":rzhk6xit]Contact me at mllumpkin@cox.net and we'll exchange contact info. I need to be added to the UT mail list so I can catch ya'll play.

Holla back,

Mark[/quote:rzhk6xit]
Yes sir! I'll 'PM' you my numbers, bro.

P.S. Thank you all for allowing me to share my music with you [img:rzhk6xit]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/1356.gif[/img:rzhk6xit]. I hope you enjoyed listening to it. Have a wonderful holiday. I'm out...

Always With Respect & Honor,
Magic
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[quote="My boy FrankM":16apqz7e]Wow- Magic- great to have you on board.
Itotally dig your unified tribe stuff[/quote:16apqz7e]
Thank you so much, my brother!!! I am honored to be a part of this wonderful 'cyber' community [img:16apqz7e]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/143.gif[/img:16apqz7e].


[quote="My boy FrankM ALSO":16apqz7e] ...saw you guys a while back in san antonio. [/quote:16apqz7e]
Hmmmm.., that's trippy.., because we've never played San Antonio [img:16apqz7e]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/sad/533.gif[/img:16apqz7e]. Do you mean Austin..? At the Paramout Theater, maybe? [img:16apqz7e]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/sad/995.gif[/img:16apqz7e]. Our videos have been playing on a few cable TV show in San Ann.., but we've never physically performed in San Ann.., at least not [i:16apqz7e]YET[/i:16apqz7e] [img:16apqz7e]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/045.gif[/img:16apqz7e].


[quote="And THEN my boy FrankM":16apqz7e]Your bassist was not playing a dingwall, but thats okay- everyone learns.[/quote:16apqz7e]
:lol: Yeah.., my bassist is my wife. She plays mostly Ibanez and Carvin basses. But she [i:16apqz7e]LOVES[/i:16apqz7e] Dingwall basses. She was sad that I sold mine. She's planning on getting one when I order mine [img:16apqz7e]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/932.gif[/img:16apqz7e]. Actually.., there are 4 of us in the band that play bass on stage (we switch off). Eventually we will [i:16apqz7e]ALL[/i:16apqz7e] be playing Dingwall basses [img:16apqz7e]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/fingers/fing02.gif[/img:16apqz7e]!!!


[quote="And FINALLY my boy FrankM":16apqz7e]Did you ever record w/ that Blue dingwall bass-if so what album[/quote:16apqz7e]
Yes sir! I recorded all the bass parts on our 2nd CD "Mixed Messages" using my.., well.., Marks blue Dingwall bass. And I used a buddy in LA's Dingwall bass on "The Whispers" song "My,my,my" (off of the "Songbook" CD) and "Russ Freeman and the Rippingtons" song "Ain't no stopping us now" (off of the "Brave new world" CD). That's what convinced me that I needed a Dingwall bass. Thanks for asking, my brother [img:16apqz7e]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/045.gif[/img:16apqz7e].



[quote="My boy Sheldon":16apqz7e]Hey Magic! Great to see you on board. How've you been doing?[/quote:16apqz7e]
Hey Sheldon [img:16apqz7e]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/042.gif[/img:16apqz7e]!!! What's been crackin', my brother? It's [i:16apqz7e]ALWAYS[/i:16apqz7e] good to hear from you, bro. I'll be calling you soon. I'm out...


With Respect & Honor,
Magic
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[quote:e7z7s96g] I humbly offer this song to you all as a token of good cheer during this holiday season.., I hope you enjoy it! [/quote:e7z7s96g]

Very nice arrangement. Cool modulation on the front. You've got a way with chords, my man.

Ciba Geigy,


Mark
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[quote="Magic":jh1s5v7q]
Hey Sheldon [img:jh1s5v7q]http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/042.gif[/img:jh1s5v7q]!!! What's been crackin', my brother? It's [i:jh1s5v7q]ALWAYS[/i:jh1s5v7q] good to hear from you, bro. I'll be calling you soon. I'm out...
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Magic, that tune is great - you're the man! Best wishes for the holiday. Give my best to Starr. Will you folks be out at NAMM?

Sheldon
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[quote="My boy Sheldon":wrjsnmw3]Magic, that tune is great - you're the man! Best wishes for the holiday. [/quote:wrjsnmw3]


Thank you so much for taking the time to listen, Sheldon. I really appreciate it, bro. You have a wonderful holiday season as [i:wrjsnmw3]WELL[/i:wrjsnmw3]!!!


[quote="My boy Sheldon ALSO":wrjsnmw3]Give my best to Starr.[/quote:wrjsnmw3]
Yes sir! will do :wink: .

[quote="And FINALLY my boy Sheldon":wrjsnmw3]Will you folks be out at NAMM?[/quote:wrjsnmw3]
I was hoping we would.., but I'm not totally sure at this point. We might be in the UK. I'll keep you posted, my brother. I'm out...

With Respect & Honor,
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O.k, new here with my recently aquired Prima! Awesome bass ... like a Dingwall should be. By the way, the news of a Super J 5er to be available soon makes me save my money already.

Cheers,
Chris
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And the good looking back :-)

Chris
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Different angle? No problem!

Cheers,
Chris :D
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I think it's a quit old one isn't it? No neck laminiates and Afterburner Electronics? But....VERY COOL BASS! Could you please add some technical specs?
Greetings, Erwin
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That's one of the original Primas

11 piece laminated maple neck
Mahogany body core
Bartolini pickups and 2-band pre-amp (probably a TBIBT)
Kahler saddles
Sperzel locking tuners
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