Friday, 19 November 2010
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Hello everybody ! :) My name's Dorian, I'm a young Swiss bassist (20 yo) playing for about a year and half, in a metal band. Two months ago, I had the pleasure to try an Afterburner II owned by Valentin Magnenat, and at the moment I touched this beauty... I've been stunned. I instantly knew (even if I'm still a newbie in basses), that this one was an incredible instrument. I just never felt so comfortable in my life with fingers on a board ! And that sound... I don't think I need to describe it, do I ? ;) So,... I thought about getting one ! No sooner said than done, I ordered today my first Dingwall bass from Arnaud (ASBS Import, France). I'm so excited. :mrgreen: And now, here's the specs of my coming beauty : [list:1wkxl303][*:1wkxl303]Dingwall Afterburner II[/*:m:1wkxl303] [*:1wkxl303]5-strings with Hipshot on B-string[/*:m:1wkxl303] [*:1wkxl303]Walnut body & neck with carbon reinforcement[/*:m:1wkxl303] [*:1wkxl303]Wenge fingerboard[/*:m:1wkxl303] [*:1wkxl303]Maple Burlburst top with "Tiger Eyeburst" finish[/*:m:1wkxl303][/list:u:1wkxl303] It will look primarily like this one : [list:1wkxl303][*:1wkxl303][url=http://www.dingwallguitars.com/wp-content/gallery/afterburner-2-gallery/abii-se-burlburst-tiger-eyeburst-full-shot-e-size.jpg:1wkxl303]abii-se-burlburst-tiger-eyeburst-full-shot[/url:1wkxl303][/*:m:1wkxl303] [*:1wkxl303][url=http://www.dingwallguitars.com/wp-content/gallery/afterburner-2-gallery/abii-se-burlburst-tiger-eyeburst-scroll-shot-e-size.jpg:1wkxl303]abii-se-burlburst-tiger-eyeburst-scroll-shot[/url:1wkxl303][/*:m:1wkxl303] [*:1wkxl303][url=http://www.dingwallguitars.com/wp-content/gallery/afterburner-2-gallery/abii-se-burlburst-tiger-eyeburst-knob-shot-e-size.jpg:1wkxl303]abii-se-burlburst-tiger-eyeburst-knob-shot[/url:1wkxl303][/*:m:1wkxl303][/list:u:1wkxl303] I show you some pics as soon as possible, and I'll give you some feedback when I'll be able to play it (in about 4-5 months)... 8) Apart from that, what kind of straps and strap locks would you recommend me to use with this bass ? Because I don't want it to fall on the ground accidentally while I'm jumping around of joy, you know?... :roll: And a last word... Thank you Sheldon for doing such amazing, breathtaking pieces of art. :wink:
11 years ago
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I'm a fan of Schaeller straplocks myself.
11 years ago
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I'm pretty sure Dunlops are standard (and my personal preference). I used Schallers for many years until the nut worked its way loose without my knowledge and I caught my bass before it hit the floor. Not blaming the Schallers for my lack of maintenance, but the Dunlops are more "idiot proof" as applies to me, they use a snap ring instead of a threaded hex nut on the strap side. One thing you may want to consider since you're having Sheldon do a build for you, is the recessed straplocks. They are flush mount, and IMO give a much cleaner appearance than standard attachments.
11 years ago
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I've also heard stories of the Dunlops not securing, so I guess each has it's issue. Dunlop and Schaller seem to be the top two though. Recessed sounds like a cool idea.
11 years ago
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Congratulations on a great bass. That finish is one of my favourites. I use Schaller straplocks. I have never had any problems with them and I tighten the locks on the strap really tight so they never come loose.
11 years ago
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[quote="NaH":3qg5w86t]I've also heard stories of the Dunlops not securing...[/quote:3qg5w86t] I have heard the same, but have no personal experience with them. I have too many instruments and straps with Schallers now that it would be a pain-in-the-ass to change (and expensive)! Ernie Ball also has released some straplocks fairly recently too.
11 years ago
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I've used Dunlops for 30+ years and they have never let me down. The Schallers have some nasty angles on them that appear capable of scarring a bass. I wore out my very first set of Dunlops after about 25 years. The locking mechanism gets worn eventually, but it takes a really, really long time to do so. Mark
11 years ago
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[quote="guitarded":2g3nzc9f]I've used Dunlops for 30+ years and they have never let me down. The Schallers have some nasty angles on them that appear capable of scarring a bass. I wore out my very first set of Dunlops after about 25 years. The locking mechanism gets worn eventually, but it takes a really, really long time to do so. Mark[/quote:2g3nzc9f] I'm not naturally a strap lock person, but I prefer the Dunlops as well. My 73 P had them when I bought it and they never failed in the 6 or so years that I played that bass non-stop. My Z/V has them on it and they've also never failed. I've now put them on my AB as well, since I use the same strap no matter what the bass. Again, no problems.
11 years ago
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Dorian - Congratulations on your ABII!! I have four nice basses collecting dust since I got mine... I gig it regularly and not only do I love the sound and playability but I admit to really getting a kick out of some of the audience trying to figure out the fretboard! The ABII is one awesome bass!
11 years ago
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Congrats, and welcome to the forum :)
11 years ago
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Wow that's gonna be a really beautiful bass! I'm jealous. Hope that I have the money for mine soon. (Sold my last guitarstuff today... :twisted: ) On the website, in the specifications, there it's said that dunlop locking strap pins are included in the ABII... aren't they good so you have to change them? And with ABI and ABZ there it says that the pins alone are included... so does that mean you will have to buy the locks yourself and can't use it with the locks?
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[quote="Willem":2yv4o681]Wow that's gonna be a really beautiful bass! I'm jealous. Hope that I have the money for mine soon. (Sold my last guitarstuff today... :twisted: ) On the website, in the specifications, there it's said that dunlop locking strap pins are included in the ABII... aren't they good so you have to change them? And with ABI and ABZ there it says that the pins alone are included... so does that mean you will have to buy the locks yourself and can't use it with the locks?[/quote:2yv4o681] We don't install flush mount strap pins in the traditional positions because the horn tips are too sharp. Also the ones we do install are nice because if you forget your strap or just don't like strap locks you can still use the pins with a regular strap. ABII's come with the strap hardware, ABI and ABZ do not as we are having to meet a low price target on those basses. Dunlops are a very good design. They can fail if they are not engaged fully. Schallers are a little noisy and parts tend to fall off them pre-maturely. I've never seen the EB ones. I've tested the Gotoh ones but they are hard to find. On a side note we do stock the flush mount pins for installation on the back of the body for players who would prefer the bass positioned a little to the right when standing. This makes for less of a reach for the left hand. This is new and will be posted on our website at some point in the near future.
11 years ago
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Thank you everybody for the welcome and amount of answers about strap locks ! :o And it's nice to finally meet you on the forum, Sheldon :) So if I've understood well, I'll be able to play with or without a strap lock on my future ABII ? There's both systems in place ? And the strap lock system is located on the back of the bass, am I right ? I tried only one bass with a strap pin in the back (a VGS Cobra Pro), and I found it very comfortable, so it would be nice to have it on my ABII ! About "flush mount" device, could something break in the strap lock and couldn't be changed ? A friend warned me about that, I'd like to have your opinion, Sheldon. Thanks for your answer ! :)
11 years ago
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I believe the flush mount are only by request. Installing a flush mount on the back is also only by request. ABII should come with Dunlop system which allow you to use regular strap or use Dunlop locks on the strap (which are included with the ABII).
11 years ago
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It is true, the Schaller screws are not very good. In my opinion, they are too short and have fine threads that look like they are made for metal. I have replaced those with drywall screws (ground the heads so they'd fit through the pins), which have a more aggressive thread and are longer. Those are the types of screws that came on my ABI and ABII at the time. I think there was a thread about it a while back. This is the one: [url:3ha6gi9d]http://dingwallguitars.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=218&hilit=Schaller[/url:3ha6gi9d]
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[quote="gnutix":u1zrlgh7] About "flush mount" device, could something break in the strap lock and couldn't be changed ? A friend warned me about that, I'd like to have your opinion, Sheldon. Thanks for your answer ! :)[/quote:u1zrlgh7] I've never heard of this happening. If it has it would be extremely rare.
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Nice ! :) Then, may I ask you if it would be possible to add an extra "flush mount on-the-back" strap lock on my future ABII ? What would be the cost of this operation ? Would you have some pictures of an ABII having this feature, to help me visualize the final render ?
11 years ago
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[quote="Smallmouth_Bass":1roggi5h]It is true, the Schaller screws are not very good. In my opinion, they are too short and have fine threads that look like they are made for metal. I have replaced those with drywall screws (ground the heads so they'd fit through the pins), which have a more aggressive thread and are longer. Those are the types of screws that came on my ABI and ABII at the time. I think there was a thread about it a while back. This is the one: [url:1roggi5h]http://dingwallguitars.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=218&hilit=Schaller[/url:1roggi5h][/quote:1roggi5h] Yeah, I've done the filing down trick with the original screws in the Dingwall strap pins so they would fit in my Schaller straplocks. I've been using Schallers for over 20 years with no problems. I like that the bass is held by gravity into the saddle so you're not relying on the pins and putting strain on them. With my other two basses I just used the Schaller screws. It's true you have to make sure the nuts attaching the lock to the straps are tight.
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Nice bass. I plan to order something like that in a fretless, maybe next year. I also like the Dunlop strap lock system. Although the Schaller works well, it's a lot of metal to have swinging around your bass when you attach or remove the strap. I've got some Fenders with a few dings in the finish because of Schaller locks. The Dunlops have plenty of metal too but most of it is on the outside of the strap, they're lighter and there are no sharp corners. The Dunlops also look better and can be used without a lock. When you use the locks, it extends the strap about 2 cm away from the bass, so I think this slightly helps the balance and it also provides a convenient place to hang the cable on the bottom pin. Sheldon, could you post a picture of where you place the back flush-mounted pin?
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[quote="callum":10sv4pts][quote="Smallmouth_Bass":10sv4pts]It is true, the Schaller screws are not very good. In my opinion, they are too short and have fine threads that look like they are made for metal. I have replaced those with drywall screws (ground the heads so they'd fit through the pins), which have a more aggressive thread and are longer. Those are the types of screws that came on my ABI and ABII at the time. I think there was a thread about it a while back. This is the one: [url:10sv4pts]http://dingwallguitars.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=218&hilit=Schaller[/url:10sv4pts][/quote:10sv4pts] Yeah, I've done the filing down trick with the original screws in the Dingwall strap pins so they would fit in my Schaller straplocks. I've been using Schallers for over 20 years with no problems. I like that the bass is held by gravity into the saddle so you're not relying on the pins and putting strain on them. With my other two basses I just used the Schaller screws. It's true you have to make sure the nuts attaching the lock to the straps are tight.[/quote:10sv4pts] 1 small drop of red Loctite on the nut threads before tightening and you never have to worry about the strap, or losing the nut. The Schaller pins that come with Rickenbackers have a very long, large and strong bolt style threading. It is much larger than the standard screw type. I have never had any problems with them. you do have to enlarge the mounting holes in the guitar body considerably to use them. ...Dean
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For all the "flush-mounted strap-pin on-the-back things", here's a [url=http://dingwallguitars.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1691:baab0uqi]new topic[/url:baab0uqi] in the appropriate forum. :wink:
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