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Can anyone recommend a studio-quality set of headphones that work well with bass frequencies please? Must work with cloth ears and heavy tinnitus... :wink: Thanks Ross
13 years ago
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Are you looking for recording, practicing, both? It's important to know because some headphones are "closed back" and designed to block outside noise, others are built purely for sound quality in a more controlled listening situation.
13 years ago
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Primary use would be for recording. Also would like to use the same phones for practicing if possible. I've used some cheap and cheerful closed-back models in the past that get very tiring after a while. If the bass audio quality was acceptable I could live with it, but I'm at the stage where I'd like to treat myself to a great sounding set. Thanks for the help... Cheers Ross
13 years ago
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If you want a perfect "closed back", I use on my personnal studio a Sennheiser HD280 Pro. I olso play drum with. He give -32DB attenuation! But you must try before buy, it's the better way.....
13 years ago
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What's your budget? I have a set of HD280 Pro's, and while they are unbeatable in the $100 range, there may be better choices out there if you're looking to spend more. Specifically, I find the 280's to be a bit bass shy, but a little EQ takes care of that. They do an excellent job of blocking outside noise. I don't have any trouble listening to them for extended periods, but they are not as comfortable as my HD580's. The 580's are open back, which means they don't block any noise and other people can hear what you're listening to, but they sound amazing.
13 years ago
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Without being model specific, the "studio standard" AKG work very well. You can spend a little more or a little less and still get good results. I would hit the websites of major recording studios and check-out their equipment list, not very many are stocked-up on $400 cans. It's a fact of life that distortion happens on lower notes when monitoring bass through headphones at higher levels. I find the AKG's break-up "less terrible" in that they don't introduce a lot of distracting harmonics and the fundamental is still audible. They are consistent and durable. For all around listening and practice I really like Grado Labs, they're open back and incredibly flat with a beautiful mid range.
13 years ago
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Have you considered in-ears? A custom molded set will set you back a good bit of dollars, but it will fit your ears exactly and take care of cancelling sound so all you hear is the mix thru the in-ears. Check out [url:1v4g30u5]http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimateears/products/custom/ue7pro_description.php[/url:1v4g30u5] - Utlimate Ears.
13 years ago
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Thanks for the feedback guys, there's some great alternatives out there. Love the idea of the in-ear models. Unfortunately 40 years of turning 'er up to 11, and flying aeroplanes, has left me with pretty bad tinnitus. The upside is I get to audition everything to see what works best - I just love playing with new toys! Have now found distributors for AKG, Sennheiser, Grado and Ultimate Ears in Melbourne so this weekend will be spent with the cans on. Thanks again...
13 years ago
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[quote="Ozroscoe":2kcz9msz]Thanks for the feedback guys, there's some great alternatives out there. Love the idea of the in-ear models. Unfortunately 40 years of turning 'er up to 11, and flying aeroplanes, has left me with pretty bad tinnitus. The upside is I get to audition everything to see what works best - I just love playing with new toys! Have now found distributors for AKG, Sennheiser, Grado and Ultimate Ears in Melbourne so this weekend will be spent with the cans on. Thanks again...[/quote:2kcz9msz] Cool! Just realized your in Australia. Best of luck and report back with what you end up doing. I'm curious to know.
13 years ago
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[quote="fookgub":2fd424jv]What's your budget? I have a set of HD280 Pro's, and while they are unbeatable in the $100 range, there may be better choices out there if you're looking to spend more. Specifically, I find the 280's to be a bit bass shy, but a little EQ takes care of that. They do an excellent job of blocking outside noise. I don't have any trouble listening to them for extended periods, but they are not as comfortable as my HD580's. The 580's are open back, which means they don't block any noise and other people can hear what you're listening to, but they sound amazing.[/quote:2fd424jv] I second the comments on the HD280 Pro's . I also use AKG271 Studios which are open back. I think both are decent and I tend to switch between them depending on the situation. I have found the quality of the overall bass sound I hear with these cans depends a lot on the pre-amp or deck being used. So far, though, I never been completely satisfied with any headphones for bass playing - likely since feeling the bass push air from an amp/cab is a different experience.
13 years ago
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The Sennheisers are very nice, but I also have a pair of Sony VR-6 DJ phones that I've found I prefer for tracking or practicing bass. They seem to do very well with the low frequencies and are fairly inexpensive - I think mine were about $65 from Amazon.
13 years ago
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[quote="tfcreative":3paow6g1]The Sennheisers are very nice, but I also have a pair of Sony VR-6 DJ phones that I've found I prefer for tracking or practicing bass. They seem to do very well with the low frequencies and are fairly inexpensive - I think mine were about $65 from Amazon.[/quote:3paow6g1] Are these the ones you are talking about: [url:3paow6g1]http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665089914[/url:3paow6g1] My Sennheisers crapped out on me this week; one ear just cut out. While they sounded very good, overall they felt (specifically the wires) kind-of cheap. I have a pair of AKG K141 headphones, but everything sounds so neutral and I want something that has a bit of emphasis on bass. The Sennheisers that I had (HD477s, looks like the equivalent of the EH350s) actually sounded very good. Unfortunately, most of the models under $100 I see have cheap thin wires. I practice in headphones 95% of the time, so they have to sound good, be comfortable and be somewhat robust.
13 years ago
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Yup, that's them. The cord is quite substantial and I find that it's long enough for anything I need it for.
13 years ago
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Unfortunately, it doesn't look like they're available in Canada and have been replaced by the Sony MDR7506s ( http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servle ... 128n100155 ) which are substantially more expensive.
13 years ago
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Or even closer in specs: The Sony MDRV600 ( http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servle ... 128n100323 )
13 years ago
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Here's a link to the item on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-V6-Monit ... 805&sr=8-8 They claim to have them in stock, and I assume they ship to Canada. I could be wrong though; real Americans fail geography.
13 years ago
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So, I ended up ordering a set of Audio-Technica ATH-M40fs headphones. I'll report back how they turn out when I get them.
13 years ago
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And so I received my headphones (Audio-Technica ATH-M40fs). They sound pretty good although it's a bit of an adjustment to get used to the sound difference between my previous pair. There is a definite emphasis on the bass and the frequency response is so large that the bass really has some girth to it. I'm not sure this is that important, but so far I try not to put the volume too loud or else you get ear fatigue. They are comfortable. One important thing to note that I wish I had thought of before making my choice: they are closed back and block outside sound really well. Where this creates problems is if you sing. I do sing some backups in my band and while playing and listening to music, I really can't hear myself sing. I guess in this situation, an open back design would be ideal.
13 years ago
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Do you get your signal to your headphones directly from a preamp or are they from a headphone amp? Can you mix some of your own vocal in from the board?
13 years ago
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I use one of those Tascam CD Portable Bass Trainer things. I use the line in to go from my computer to play along with MP3s as well. I do not mic my vocals, I just have to keep the volume at a reasonably low level and sing loud so I can hear myself.
13 years ago
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Ahh, I see. I was thinking more of a stage situation. Do your phones have a DJ-type feature where you can fold one side and listen only through one can?
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