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Hey Sheldon,

I can't remember if this has been discussed before. Have you built a guitar with FF yet?
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yeah i'm wondering this too. i've been thinking more and more of a fanned fret 8 string, and i'm wondering who i'll eventually have build it :mrgreen:
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Thinking of Sheldon's level of attention to detail and perfection to the result, I doubt he'd be going that route any time soon (even though I'd love one myself)
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I've only built one prototype and unfortunately it was lost in the fire 10 years ago. Here's what I remember though.

I wanted to see what the outside limits were so the fan was slightly on the extreme side.

The treble strings sounded HUGE and creamy. The wound strings were bright and clear. This was even more noticeable live.

Ergonomics wise the radical fanning only caused problems with the barred F chord. Everything else felt fine.
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":2iqzr6su]The treble strings sounded HUGE and creamy. The wound strings were bright and clear. This was even more noticeable live.

Ergonomics wise the radical fanning only caused problems with the barred F chord. Everything else felt fine.[/quote:2iqzr6su]

my guitar GAS is returning... :twisted:
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Sheldon, do you remember what the scale range was on that prototype? I built a test board with a 24.5" - 27.75" and it was quite a bear to play. I played a classical that was 25.5" - 27" and it felt good and sounded very balanced. I think this is the same fan that Ralph Novak uses in his XR guitars. I've been meaning to try something like a 24.75" - 27" fan, but haven't had the time yet.
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":1wvu5dov]I've only built one prototype and unfortunately it was lost in the fire 10 years ago. Here's what I remember though.

I wanted to see what the outside limits were so the fan was slightly on the extreme side.

The treble strings sounded HUGE and creamy. The wound strings were bright and clear. This was even more noticeable live.

Ergonomics wise the radical fanning only caused problems with the barred F chord. Everything else felt fine.[/quote:1wvu5dov]

Any plans to try again in the future?

I've been thinking more about it since I have been doing a lot more guitar work lately. It's always nice to return to the comfort of my AB.
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":1d7tcvlr]I've only built one prototype and unfortunately it was lost in the fire 10 years ago. Here's what I remember though.

I wanted to see what the outside limits were so the fan was slightly on the extreme side.

The treble strings sounded HUGE and creamy. The wound strings were bright and clear. This was even more noticeable live.

Ergonomics wise the radical fanning only caused problems with the barred F chord. Everything else felt fine.[/quote:1d7tcvlr]

considering pursuing it? if not, how much money would i have to throw at you to convince you :mrgreen:

been looking at the novax 8's but i'm not really interested in a guitar/bass, i just want an 8 string guitar!
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":1e7fh63w]I've only built one prototype and unfortunately it was lost in the fire 10 years ago. Here's what I remember though.

I wanted to see what the outside limits were so the fan was slightly on the extreme side.

The treble strings sounded HUGE and creamy. The wound strings were bright and clear. This was even more noticeable live.

Ergonomics wise the radical fanning only caused problems with the barred F chord. Everything else felt fine.[/quote:1e7fh63w]

Any news/updates on this topic? Also, have you considered building a (suitably scaled down) Afterburner guitar? I think it's a great design which would make a wonderful six-stringer. Love my AB basses...
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No news yet. I will say that the FF guitar that we will be prototyping will be based on the Afterburner.
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I had an idea: shortening the current AB neck for that guitar could be a good feature! You know, because basses are longer. Please give this some consideration. Also you may consider not creating 4 and 5 string guitars, not many of those around.
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[quote="Bocete":30psq1qv]Also you may consider not creating 4 and 5 string guitars, not many of those around.[/quote:30psq1qv]Rather, a 7-string would be nice^^
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":26ifoiyp]No news yet. I will say that the FF guitar that we will be prototyping will be based on the Afterburner.[/quote:26ifoiyp]

Has there been any progress on this one, Sheldon?

I'm primarily a guitar player, but have become rather enamoured of the aesthetics of the Afterburner design. A fanned-fret 8 string in an AB style would be.... transcendent.
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Do you think changing the parallel fret from the 7th to a different, and giving the guitar a slightly more parallel nut would help with the barred F?

I'm mostly a bassist, but with all the hype about extended range guitars, especially those with fanned frets, it's about time you guys jumped in and blew everyone else out of the water!

Plus, a matching ABZ guitar to go with my bass would be awesome.
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We're backed up so far on internal process improvements that we haven't had time to pursue the fanned-fret guitars. Hopefully once we're up to speed on our new CNC we'll be able to take a stab at it.

We'll play with the perpendicular fret position but likely if it moves, it will be toward the upper frets to balance out the play ability up there.
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[quote:qfsfpq9u]We're backed up so far on internal process improvements that we haven't had time to pursue the fanned-fret guitars.[/quote:qfsfpq9u]

Good!.. Last thing I need is another guitar, and if Sheldon and company made a FF guitar I know I would not be able to resist! :D
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