Monday, 26 April 2010
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Hey Guys, I'm new to the world of Dingwall, so new i haven't even got my bass yet, other to say that i have laid a deposit down with Bass Direct over a Matte Black with Rosewood Board Combustion or 1 of the 2 New ABZ's coming in, I'm swaying towards the ABZ as i love Maple Boards and the black Hipshot hardware is killer and something i was going to upgrade on the Combustion, so basically the two basses are going to cost me the same in the end, I'm a sucker for the Combustion's pick guard which i personally love, but if the ABZ is head and shoulders over the Combustion build wise and tone wise then i'll ABZ it, its going to be my first Dingwall and i want the experience to be the best it can be! Any advice you vets can give? When i get the news on the ABZ's finishes i'll let you know if they're in nice colours then the choice will be an easy one. Cheers Guys.
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Well, I don't think upgrading black hardware to the C bass would cost as much as an ABZ, not as nearly. Otherwise a chrome hardware version of the ABZ would be available for very little money so the C would be obsolete. Finish and quality-wise, the ABZ should be better. Look-wise, as much as I love the Combustion, I find ABZs prettier. However, C-basses have a preamp which is nice. I guess looks put aside, it's mostly about more quality for more cost.
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[quote="Bocete":1xd6tqee]Well, I don't think upgrading black hardware to the C bass would cost as much as an ABZ, not as nearly. Otherwise a chrome hardware version of the ABZ would be available for very little money so the C would be obsolete. Finish and quality-wise, the ABZ should be better. Look-wise, as much as I love the Combustion, I find ABZs prettier. However, C-basses have a preamp which is nice. I guess looks put aside, it's mostly about more quality for more cost.[/quote:1xd6tqee] Hi Bocete, ABZ is
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[quote="SpaceCowboy"]Hi Bocete, ABZ is
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For that price difference I'd definitely go with an ABZ, it's probably a little better quality and they look killer. If you could get your deposit back it might be worth looking around for a slightly used one to save some money or maybe even go up to an AB.
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[quote="Cheamo":x2o7mcib]For that price difference I'd definitely go with an ABZ, it's probably a little better quality and they look killer. If you could get your deposit back it might be worth looking around for a slightly used one to save some money or maybe even go up to an AB.[/quote:x2o7mcib] +1
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I'd go with the ABZ too.
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+1 on the ABZ
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Certainly seems like the ABZ is getting some serious love, i plan to hit the store next week so i can try both models out so i'll hope that both basses are sitting waiting for me, the nice thought is i'll leave with one or the other! Cheers guys.
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1500 pounds converts to $2300 today. You should be able to get an ABZ stateside for about $1900, or a Cbass for about $1200. How is a $700 difference close to the same money? :? Anyway, I'd get the ABZ if I had a choice. Mark
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$700 isn't that close, which is why 200 pounds is very close. Even if you do the conversion on both number it's about $300 dollars, even though it probably doesn't make sense to do it that way.
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Say what? :? Well, I can see that we haven't helped the OP at all with our advice. Just get the ABZ, Cowboy, whatever it costs. Mark
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As always keep in mind when comparing pricing between UK or Europe and the US that the cost to ship across the ocean runs $200 minimum plus insuance plu brokerage plus VAT plus wire transfer fees etc. The difference in landed cost isn't as much as it looks. The upsides to supporting the local UK dealer are many: 1. if the dealer is supported, they'll stock our instruments so you'll have the ability to try before you buy. You'll know exactly what you're getting. 2. +1 on stocking strings 3. warranty issues will be handled locally. Admittedly it's rare that you'd need any warranty work, but the peace of mind is worth something. 4. the dealer assumes the risk of loss or damage in transit. Just because the instrument is insured doesn't mean the carrier is going to pay. They will send an inspector out and do their best to blame the shipper for not packing it properly. #1 rule in the insurance biz - Blame the other guy. Meanwhile your money is in limbo.
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[quote="guitarded":1khczqtu]Just get the ABZ, Cowboy, whatever it costs.[/quote:1khczqtu] I had avoided posting for the sake of not sounding biased because I'm selling my ABZ, but I just saw you've already put a deposit down, so I guess you won't be taking mine. :) I am in total agreement with Mark on this. Honestly, at this point I won't really mind if I can't get my sales done so I can buy a Z3 - in part because my ABZ plays like absolute butter. Other than a need for active electronics, I can't see a good reason for getting a Combustion over an ABZ.
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[quote="nastyn8c":3pjfb3xk]Other than a need for active electronics, I can't see a good reason for getting a Combustion over an ABZ.[/quote:3pjfb3xk] Or not liking maple boards, liking pickguards, color choice and overall look preference. I can't say I sway in either direction. I've never played either.
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[quote="nastyn8c":xoiligsh]Other than a need for active electronics, I can't see a good reason for getting a Combustion over an ABZ.[/quote:xoiligsh] For sure, if the ABZ is in reach financially, it's the best choice. Canadian bass vs Chinese bass. Hmmm. Not everybody can start with an ABZ, though, so the Cbass fills a role. No disrespect to my Combustion, though. It's a great bass and a pleasure to play in its own right - and it's all you can look at when it's under the stage lights. :) Mark
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[quote="davio":16z5s9ad][quote="nastyn8c":16z5s9ad]Other than a need for active electronics, I can't see a good reason for getting a Combustion over an ABZ.[/quote:16z5s9ad] Or not liking maple boards, liking pickguards, color choice and overall look preference. I can't say I sway in either direction. I've never played either.[/quote:16z5s9ad] Very true on all counts :D My choice was made easy because I wanted one with maple, and the build quality of the Dingwall shop is superior to anything I know in that price range. I can see where the options work for others. IMHO, if you can afford the ABZ that would be the target. Keep in mind the key differences in the pickups too: the FD-3A pups in the Combustion have more of a natural compression to them while the FD-3 pups in the ABZ have a broader dynamic range.
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[quote="nastyn8c":365p77vc]Keep in mind the key differences in the pickups too: the FD-3A pups in the Combustion have more of a natural compression to them while the FD-3 pups in the ABZ have a broader dynamic range.[/quote:365p77vc] +1 Mark
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[quote="guitarded":1f9fxr96]1500 pounds converts to $2300 today. You should be able to get an ABZ stateside for about $1900, or a Cbass for about $1200. How is a $700 difference close to the same money? :? Anyway, I'd get the ABZ if I had a choice. Mark[/quote:1f9fxr96] You shouldn't work out
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Hey guys just so you know i picked up my Dingwall Combustion in Candy Apple Green yesterday! i managed to get a one off Tortoise Shell Guard for it too, that was made for BassDirect in the UK! so Sheldon its with me now! I'm currently at work at the moment but i will get some photos up tonight for people to see its certainly a looker! I A/B'd the bass against the Dingwall ABZ and genuinely prefered the sound and feel of the Combustion and the CAG finish is so funky in person. I'm a very happy customer the bass is truly outstanding, good work Dingwall.
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[quote="SpaceCowboy":29cjhquf]Hey guys just so you know i picked up my Dingwall Combustion in Candy Apple Green yesterday! i managed to get a one off Tortoise Shell Guard for it too, that was made for BassDirect in the UK! so Sheldon its with me now! I'm currently at work at the moment but i will get some photos up tonight for people to see its certainly a looker! I A/B'd the bass against the Dingwall ABZ and genuinely prefered the sound and feel of the Combustion and the CAG finish is so funky in person. I'm a very happy customer the bass is truly outstanding, good work Dingwall.[/quote:29cjhquf] Could you take some time and talk about how do they compare? What did you prefer on one over the other? Thanks, Bo
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