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I wonder if there's anyone using bead tuning on a 4 string dingwall that has the full scale (36.25 on the low "e" or "b" string) and using a capo on 5th just to bring it up to standard tuning and fingering? Wouldn't it be closer to the shorter scale necks out there?

Anyone?

There's not too many bassists I know of using capo. IMHO, I think it would be better that to re- or de-tune all of the time. Say if you play with horns, you just move the capo to Eb or Bb or F. Same with "drop d" you set the capo on third fret and leave it at that. Maybe a slight showing of shortcomings by the player but anyway. Some people just wants the low E to be "fretted" and not open all of the time.
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[quote="Mats Eriksson":1zl0yfxb]Some people just wants the low E to be "fretted" and not open all of the time.[/quote:1zl0yfxb]

That's why we bought the 5-string! :wink: :D
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Ahh uhh I see...

While I've read that some players, even professional ones, rather stay with 4-strings but tunes them different instead, I thought there must be someone else around. Colin Edwin of Porcupine Tree for example. I meant if there was someone who "cheats" a little by using easier fingering from fanned fret 5 string 34-37 scale, I thought someone must've at least tried it once or twice just to see the outcome.

I e, that someone with a 4er Dingwall just tried to change the string gauge, tuned BEAD, and put a capo on just to see what happened. It's easily reverted and no alterations at all to any instrument. I know even Sheldon himself has expressed some concerns why people hasn't bought their 4 strings and tuned them BEAD too. The lowest string will just be 0.75 inch shorter than a full 5er 34-37 inch scale. The lowest string is 36.25 inch on their AB series. 2 centimeters short. Not that much of a big deal is it? In order to get a "full" low B.
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I have not seen many people capo basses or any brand. I am thinking it would be even more difficult with a bass tuned BEAD because of the larger diameter strings. With the B-string being so big, I wonder if it would impede a capo seating/fretting of the adjacent strings.
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I've tried it just for giggles with hand tappy shenanigans. Shubb doesn't work very well. I've had the Kyser working.
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You have to remember that the B-string is just as thick on a 5er WHICH HAS NARROWER STRING SPACING. That's why I think it would make more sense, at least slightly. The other thing it could be used for, is that I've heard so far most funk, slap, thumb playing resortso to OPEN STRING KEYS which makes them boring in the long run to listen to. As you play soul/funk music which includes horns more often than not, it would be neat to have open strings, at F, BB, and even Eb occasionally.

Granted the capo would have to look like a ramp, but anyway, it doesn't have to press down any tiny gauge g-string. I just wonder what the tonality would be like, if put on 5th fret on a bead bass that has a low "e" or "b" at 36.25 inch scale.

On the other hand, I think Sheldon would think about it in the end. Say, he's been slightly frustrated that he cannot get the 4ers to happen just as much as his 5ers. So, if you will provide a ZERO FRET on say a AB1 4er bass, people can swap between a BEAD tuning and EADG tuning without having to re-cut the nut. Or change it out. A zero fret can take any gauge, and the nut behind it is just for guidance. Then you could "up" the demography, and cater to those bead players too.
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