Monday, 30 August 2010
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OK, here's the comparison. A recording of my bass strung both BEADG and EADGC. I've played my bass at church a couple times and here is my conclusion: it's neat to have that high C and doing solo stuff sounds cool, but in a band setting missing that B is a real liability. For a primary axe (like mine) it is totally not worth it. Any questions, let me know. [b:2ezy22gw][url:2ezy22gw]http://grannysplace.servehttp.com/gh0ce/TheGrandEnigmaStringComparison.mp3[/url:2ezy22gw][/b:2ezy22gw] Edit: After listening to it from the forum, I noticed that they don't really sound much different. The only benifit from the E-C tuning is the high C, while you're missing that beautiful low B. If you want that C, get a 6 string.
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Thanks for sound clip! How about tension of the E strings on 37" scale?
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Welcome to the forum! The tension on the strings was lower all around. I found it fairly easy to get buzz if I play pretty hard, but it's not that bad. One thing that really surprised me was that the C sounded a lot brighter than the rest relatively. If you want to try it yourself, be careful what E string you use. The wraps end right on the nut, so I wouldn't doubt it that there are VooDoo E-strings out there that aren't long enough.
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[quote:1y48cyds]How about tension of the E strings on 37" scale?[/quote:1y48cyds] [quote:1y48cyds]The tension on the strings was lower all around.[/quote:1y48cyds] Hmmm, Sounds counter-intuitive to me. Since each string will be .75" longer (E from 36.25 to 37.00, A from 35.50 to 36.25, ...) I would think you would need higher tension to tune each to the correct pitch.
11 years ago
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That's what I thought. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this one.
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[quote="amodeo@mitre.org":3gab517e][quote:3gab517e]How about tension of the E strings on 37" scale?[/quote:3gab517e] [quote:3gab517e]The tension on the strings was lower all around.[/quote:3gab517e] Hmmm, Sounds counter-intuitive to me. Since each string will be .75" longer (E from 36.25 to 37.00, A from 35.50 to 36.25, ...) I would think you would need higher tension to tune each to the correct pitch.[/quote:3gab517e] A 37" E string will be higher in tension than a 36.25". Weird. I like the way the bass sounds better with the tighter tension Grand (E-C).
11 years ago
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Maybe it's how you set it up? Lower tension with the same strings on a longer scale is just not possible. Tension is subjective and depends on many factors, but mainly string height.
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[quote:3kum5uwx]Tension is subjective and depends on many factors[/quote:3kum5uwx] Hate to be argumentative here, but tension isn't subjective at all, and can be measured. Think of it this way. What does it take to tune your E string to an F? Higher tension. Or you can tune it back to an E and get the F by fretting the first fret (i.e., shortening the vibrating length). The frequency depends on three things: 1) vibrating length, 2) string mass/unit length, and 3) tension. Ain't rocket science, but it is physics. :D
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Well, I don't know how to measure string tension, but I can test it when I switch my strings back. All I know is that I had to loosen the truss rod when I restrung E-C, and the feel of them is loser than the regular strings too. The whole reason I tried this was to try "higher tension" strings, but that kind-of backfired, didn't it? Looks like we have a mystery to solve. 8)
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[quote="amodeo@mitre.org":2xvslvks][quote:2xvslvks]Tension is subjective and depends on many factors[/quote:2xvslvks] Hate to be argumentative here, but tension isn't subjective at all, and can be measured. Think of it this way. What does it take to tune your E string to an F? Higher tension. Or you can tune it back to an E and get the F by fretting the first fret (i.e., shortening the vibrating length). The frequency depends on three things: 1) vibrating length, 2) string mass/unit length, and 3) tension. Ain't rocket science, but it is physics. :D[/quote:2xvslvks] Heh, I knew that. That rule is the reason why I doubt tension decreasing with string length increasing, as stated to be happening in this experiment. I was talking about subjective tension, and I should have been clear about that. What [i:2xvslvks]feels[/i:2xvslvks] stiffer to our hands might not actually be, and setup tricks can make strings feel more or less tense.
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Ah, I understand. Interesting that you used the word "stiffer". Here the term stiffness refers to how much force is necessary to bend the string, as opposed to how much force is needed to stretch the string (related to tension). The thicker strings would indeed be stiffer than the thinner ones (all other things being equal). So I can see that by going to EADGC, where each string is thinner (and therefore less stiff) than BEADG strings, the reduction in stiffness could feel like less tension. And it really does come down to what it feels like, rather than some scientific measurement.
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