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  Sunday, 13 November 2011
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We've machined one prototype body to test out the tool paths, here are some photos of the second body. This will be the first one machined on the new CNC.
10 years ago
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I'd say go with the open grain satin finish. IMO, it's the best finish you can have if the bass doesn't have a top wood. What I like so much about it, is that you can't see all the fingerprints like in a gloss finish. Here's a pic of my ABZ, it doesn't look cheap at all to me [img:6os6b8iz]http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq268/IvanBassist/Edit2.jpg[/img:6os6b8iz]
10 years ago
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[quote="G&L-Forever":30z7lywy]Gloss, please! I'm buying an expensive instrument here, and no offense to anybody with different tastes, but I don't want to feel like a cheapo, and I would if my dream Super P came with a satin finish. With a bass as beautiful as this will be, why would you want to scrimp on the finish? GLF[/quote:30z7lywy] Hah. Fodera and MTD basses use satin finishes exclusively. The bass looks great Sheldon, I will have to start saving my pennies!
10 years ago
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The more I think about it, the John East Retro-P preamp option is a really good idea. You can make a simple volume/tone setup and if you ever want to upgrade after your initial purchase, there are no real modifications to be done.
10 years ago
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just wondering about that new bridge design you were talking about for the super P, it didn't make it on the final bass? The satin finishes would make it look retro a bit ,very cool
10 years ago
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My US$0.02 worth... Headstock scoop: [quote="Sheldon Dingwall":27czd49p] There's considerable time spent hand sanding out the machine marks.[/quote:27czd49p] In that case, why not omit it and reduce your costs? It's always looked somewhat anatomical to me, if you get my drift. Finishes: I'd be in favor of the satins as well as the glosses. A natural ash Super P with a maple fretboard and black hardware to match my ABZ would be totally cool, but so would one like the prototype, which is like the '78 P I played for so many years. Singlemalt has a great idea: why not make the LSS finishes optional? I'd also love one with a natural walnut body, walnut neck, wenge board and no pickguard. I've come down with a BAD case of Pnewmania, and by the time these go into production I'm sure I'll be over my concurrent case of (myrtle-top ABII-induced) Pnomoneya...
10 years ago
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The words "cost-effective performance" are making me very happy right now.. I absolutely love the Super-P. Looks, specs.. everything. Like I wrote on Talkbass, this bass is a major GAS-troll for me. I mentally prepared either a passive black/tort/rosewood or a black/black/maple -bass for myself already.. :lol: But returning to planet earth for a while, my 2c for a couple of things... +1 for the swamp ash / satin finish. Those who want a classier look, the gloss finish is a no-brainer. But the satin / open grain finish gives a bit more "modern" & "edgier" look to the bass. E.g the AB posted before, or the swamp ash / satin basses at sandberg: [url:3s5kt7rr]http://www.sandberg-guitars.de[/url:3s5kt7rr]. An open grain burst always looks cool (I'm a sucker for greenburst myself). +1 for the in/out active option. Personally, I think passive is all a P-bass needs but if active is your thing, nothing's better than being able to just throw it in without a hassle. I routed my main 4-string with chisel, on the living room table to fit a 9 volt battery.. it ended up sounding really good, but it was bit of a hassle. :wink:
10 years ago
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[color=#4000FF:3kgu1kgm] For me 3 tone sunburst gloss finish is my ideal, I don't like p bass with flashy, exotic or any experimental look. The prototype is looking perfect for me. and for the scoop head stock I like it so much but if cost can reduce without it, I sure can go.[/color:3kgu1kgm]
10 years ago
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I love the satin finish on my ABZ. The tobacoburst sheldon put on it looks great with the maple board and black hardware. I'm not sure I'd love it as much with chrome and a pickguard. And what's a P without those?
10 years ago
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I admit to traditionalism and would go glossy myself.
10 years ago
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[img:1pesdeev]http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/385138_289573001085565_100000986015036_881595_592474980_n.jpg[/img:1pesdeev]
10 years ago
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[quote="metalstorm":1wu54069][img:1wu54069]http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/385138_289573001085565_100000986015036_881595_592474980_n.jpg[/img:1wu54069][/quote:1wu54069] Wow that got here in UK quickly! I am very pleased for Dave Swift, he really deserves it. When you meet him, you'll soon realize he is a very nice and gentle guy. I am dying to hear what he makes of the Super P.
10 years ago
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Can't wait to hear it.
10 years ago
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He is a great player, on both electric and upright. Well done Dave!
10 years ago
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[quote="prengel_basser":3owm5oyt]Sheldon, will the neckprofile and nut width of the 4 string be p-like = FAT? :D[/quote:3owm5oyt] Will the neck be profiled like the SJ?
10 years ago
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That's a good question because P players generally prefer a wider neck. That being said The AB4 neck is modelled off Lee's P and we've sold way more SJ4's than AB4's. We'll likely poll the forum before we carve.
10 years ago
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":8vedfei2]That's a good question because P players generally prefer a wider neck. That being said The AB4 neck is modelled off Lee's P and we've sold way more SJ4's than AB4's. We'll likely poll the forum before we carve.[/quote:8vedfei2] I don't know what I would read into that. I think the lower number of sales for AB4's is probably due more to the AB5 rather than the SJ4. My view is that people who like the AB want to take advantage of its longer scale, so even if they were 4-string players before, a lot of them switched to 5-string. The SJ4 players just wanted a Dingwall Jazz Bass. It wouldn't bother me which neck profile you chose. I have become accustomed to everything from SJ4 to AB6. (However, when the SJ4 first came out I thought the neck was way too narrow but I'm happy with it now.) If you are going to roll out this new model you might as well make it as different to the SJ as possible for the sake of variety. Besides, it a P-bass, why not have a P-bass neck profile?
10 years ago
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Having interchangeable necks would be nice, if doable. So that people can get a P body with a J neck, or swap later if they don't like the feel. Some people like the opposite as well, P necks on Js.
10 years ago
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[quote="Bocete":2amojbgw]Having interchangeable necks would be nice, if doable. So that people can get a P body with a J neck, or swap later if they don't like the feel. Some people like the opposite as well, P necks on Js.[/quote:2amojbgw] +1.
10 years ago
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Thought forum members would like an update on the only P5 in existence. I caught up with Dave Swift yesterday by phone whilst on tour in the UK somewhere between Plymouth and Portsmouth and discussed his experience with the "P". I asked him if he would offer up some of his thoughts to forum members at the end of this current tour. He has promised to do so when life gets a bit less hectic. I can tell you that due to Dave's gig and playing style (and he is quite unique here) he rolls off all his top-end and still found the strings a bit zingy. He had the foresight to pack some Low Beams and TI Flats with him to experiment with over the next few days. Dave has been known to favour a mix of flats and rounds so will be interesting to see the results. As a life-long fan of Leo's "P" and a man that plays hundreds of gigs a year (radio, studio, tv, and live gigs with the most amazing artists) Dave is well aware of the P-bass's attributes and shortcomings. He was quite quick to say that Sheldon nailed it with this bass, all Dingwall advantages expressed through a P-bass. That for me is a beautiful thing. Oh yeah Dave is at the point now where the John East preamp is essential in all his gigging basses. More to follow.......
10 years ago
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Thank you for the update Dingwall Sales, this is all very interesting.
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