Monday, 12 January 2009
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At long last, here are the first 6 Combustions. These will be at NAMM next week.
12 years ago
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#12254
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[quote="fullrangebass":1954sfj1][quote="Smallmouth_Bass":1954sfj1]I prefer that green over the olive one.[/quote:1954sfj1] I am in for a green :wink:[/quote:1954sfj1] Yeah, I like the green one too :wink: , but is that supposed to be candy lime? Looks too dark. Mark
12 years ago
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#12258
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[quote="guitarded":3dqe7ds9]Yeah, I like the green one too :wink: , but is that supposed to be candy lime? Looks too dark.[/quote:3dqe7ds9] I'm not really sure how you'd call it. Candy lime is a bit sparkly, so I guess this would be a candy lime without the sparkle; resulting in a bit darker color. Photoshopping sparkle is a bit beyond my skills :roll:. I stumbled upon that green accidentally, I wasn't aiming for anything particular. I've added a Lee Sklar green one, which is lighter.
12 years ago
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#12259
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[quote="guitarded":35ctsrhh][quote="fullrangebass":35ctsrhh][quote="Smallmouth_Bass":35ctsrhh]I prefer that green over the olive one.[/quote:35ctsrhh] I am in for a green :wink:[/quote:35ctsrhh] Yeah, I like the green one too :wink: , but is that supposed to be candy lime? Looks too dark. Mark[/quote:35ctsrhh] +1 Lets have no confusion, Sklar green is the right one. :D
12 years ago
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#12260
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[quote="BurningSkies":38gqgiua][quote="guitarded":38gqgiua][quote="fullrangebass":38gqgiua][quote="Smallmouth_Bass":38gqgiua]I prefer that green over the olive one.[/quote:38gqgiua] I am in for a green :wink:[/quote:38gqgiua] Yeah, I like the green one too :wink: , but is that supposed to be candy lime? Looks too dark. Mark[/quote:38gqgiua] +1 Lets have no confusion, Sklar green is the right one. :D[/quote:38gqgiua] That's it. :wink: Mark
12 years ago
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#12292
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The color choices are close to being locked in. Now is the time to cast your votes for a favorite. I'll start a poll thread in a couple of days and organize the front-runner photoshop colors into the thread. Matte is out for now.
12 years ago
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#12293
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I want brown or green myself. I'm not sure how popular that would be though...
12 years ago
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#12294
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":5t6pn0ef]The color choices are close to being locked in. Now is the time to cast your votes for a favorite. I'll start a poll thread in a couple of days and organize the front-runner photoshop colors into the thread. Matte is out for now.[/quote:5t6pn0ef] I would suggest, apart from that, to ask your dealers what colours are popular at this price range. I mean, forum lurkers (like me) are used to looking at thousands of all kinds of bass photos and probably have more extreme/unusual tastes than usual customers. A unique colour (like green for example) might be popular among forum members, but that doesn't mean that it's gonna fly off shelves. And by targeting at the $1200 crowd, you're probably looking at a more conservative crowd. Again, I may be wrong, but I feel that, sales-wise, the experience of dealers will be much more valuable than my (or others' here) opinion. By all means, go ahead with the poll, just don't count only on that.
12 years ago
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#12295
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[quote="Dragonlord":1awp7u3u] I would suggest, apart from that, to ask your dealers what colours are popular at this price range. I mean, forum lurkers (like me) are used to looking at thousands of all kinds of bass photos and probably have more extreme/unusual tastes than usual customers. A unique colour (like green for example) might be popular among forum members, but that doesn't mean that it's gonna fly off shelves. And by targeting at the $1200 crowd, you're probably looking at a more conservative crowd. Again, I may be wrong, but I feel that, sales-wise, the experience of dealers will be much more valuable than my (or others' here) opinion. By all means, go ahead with the poll, just don't count only on that.[/quote:1awp7u3u] I agree. I once read somewhere that green basses don't sell (even though I like it). There's probably also a reason why you don't see Salmon Pink very often too.
12 years ago
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#12296
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Yeah, I guess a more traditional looking bass would sell better, but there has to be a way to get a lees-than-conventional-looking finish in there somehow. I've yet to get my first Dingy (the Combustion will hopefully be my first) but I don't want a dingwall for it's traditional looks. Apart from the obvious (sound, feel, ergnomics, etc) I want a dingwall cause it looks FLIPPIN' COOL! Brazil, Rastaburst, and that hot leafburst Z3 (Mmmm, prima-bodied) all come to mind when I think Dingwall. I want a sceamin' bass, one that says "Look at me, I rock!" Any wild, ad-norm finish you can add to the line would be appreciated by me (hopefully others too), but please keep it tastful, no sex-pistol burst! (lol) my $.02
12 years ago
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#12297
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You know, this green bashing isn't helping my mission to get a candy green Combustion.:cry: Maybe Sheldon could do just a few green ones for those who [i:6namhnfy]really[/i:6namhnfy] want them. :wink: Mark
12 years ago
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#12298
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I have nothing against green basses (candy apple green is very nice) or any of the more non-traditional colours, but we only represent a very small percentage of the bass buying public and our tastes may differ significantly from the general public. I wouldn't want the new Combustions to sit on music store hangers for years at a time because of odd colour choices. But then again, Enigma brings up a good point; a Dingwall is a non-traditional bass to start with so there may be more market tolerance to non-traditional finishes.
12 years ago
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#12299
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[quote:20wzdzfr]You know, this green bashing isn't helping my mission to get a candy green Combustion.Crying or Very sad Maybe Sheldon could do just a few green ones for those who really want them. Wink[/quote:20wzdzfr] I'd be up for that (as long as it was a nice green ;) )
12 years ago
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Mark-- I'm with ya on this one, maybe we can band together and get a limited run of candy apple green combustions. I mean Gee whiz half of Texas's Dingwall basses are in our hands ;^)- kidding of course Funk
12 years ago
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#12301
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[quote="FrankM":1nk1a902]Mark-- I'm with ya on this one, maybe we can band together and get a limited run of candy apple green combustions. I mean Gee whiz half of Texas's Dingwall basses are in our hands ;^)- kidding of course Funk[/quote:1nk1a902] That's a great idea.
12 years ago
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#12302
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[quote="BurningSkies":31g6wkfy][quote="FrankM":31g6wkfy]Mark-- I'm with ya on this one, maybe we can band together and get a limited run of candy apple green combustions. I mean Gee whiz half of Texas's Dingwall basses are in our hands ;^)- kidding of course Funk[/quote:31g6wkfy] That's a great idea.[/quote:31g6wkfy] Glad you thought of that, Frank! :wink: Mark
12 years ago
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#12303
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":26b6a2xy]The color choices are close to being locked in. Now is the time to cast your votes for a favorite. I'll start a poll thread in a couple of days and organize the front-runner photoshop colors into the thread. Matte is out for now.[/quote:26b6a2xy] Sheldon, please let me know if you need any other color mockups. The layered Photoshop images are, of course, all done, and it only takes me a few seconds to knock out a new color version. Just give me a holler.
12 years ago
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#12304
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As to the colors, I know that Sheldon wants to get everything [i:23nfjn6p]just right[/i:23nfjn6p]. The red bass on the right, below.... [img:23nfjn6p]http://xs435.xs.to/xs435/09045/003493.jpg[/img:23nfjn6p] ... was supposed to match this Metallic Root Beer mockup: [img:23nfjn6p]http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/258/combustionverticalupdatlu7.jpg[/img:23nfjn6p] As you can see, the finishers didn't really get it right, rust is a more orange-y hue. I know that Sheldon was working with the finishers to get the color perfect.
12 years ago
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#12309
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Speaking from my perspective, Slight background: I consider myself open minded about improvement. That is, nothing in the market would make me happier than a Dingwall. I believe myself to be of the non-conservative crowd. I don't have a high budget and therefore believe that the Combustion is the bass guitar for me. Even though I can't promise that I won't, I don't plan on having two - or more - Dingwalls. My budget doesn't allow it, if it did I'd already have an AB by my side. Therefore, I want my Combustion to be special, to stand out. To be The bass. I wouldn't refuse a plain looking one, if it were the only choice, but I'd really like it in a non-conventional finish. Like green, or orange, or teal, strong colors. I'd also love it in unconventional bursts like leafburst, or a indigo-to-blue gradient, but that's a bit too much for an off-shore bass. :roll: As far as others are consirned, there are the "conventional" people that might like natural, vintage-bursts and the like - let's call them the Fender crowd. I remember some people on Talkbass discussing the Combustion, and they were afraid of it; thought it even more scary with a pickguard. In their eyes the offset pickguard made the fanned-ness even more extreme. I haven't felt that the slightest, but a few people have. If these basses were aimed for the Fender crowd as well (and why not?), you'd have to make it a Fender bass replica as far as finishes are conserned, which is fine by me as well. On the other hand, there are people that like pushing the limit and trying out new things. They are scarce (relatively, from what I've seen), but are very likely to try and love a Dingwall bass. They might appreciate the more unusual finishes/looks. Like MM Bongos, for example; they do sell, and the finishes available are a bit to the extreme side compared to most other basses made. My opinion, of course. And then there are DAS addicts. I'd suggest providing something for all the worlds here: a Fender-like burst or two ([url=http://www.fender.com/products/prod_images/basses/0136400303_xl.jpg:1o4ncv6y]two color[/url:1o4ncv6y] and [url=http://www.fender.com/products/prod_images/basses/0190116800_xl.jpg:1o4ncv6y]three color[/url:1o4ncv6y], for example). As far as those less conventional colors are concerned, Musicman has discontinued quite a lot of finishes in the past year of two (I believe), so I'd guess that those that remained do sell. I'd see if any of [url=http://www.music-man.com/instruments/basses/stingray-5.html:1o4ncv6y]those[/url:1o4ncv6y] are plausible for an off-shore bass, and the finishes on their site might be used as a reference of what would sell and what wouldn't. And as far as the extreme finishes forum members might like, limited color runs might do the trick, for an upcharge, of course. And/or they might be available only by pre-order: one would have to order a green Combustion and wait until there is a batch of, say, 12 green basses ordered; at which point you'll have 12 green basses made for those people. Again, this is the way I feel/think. I'm sure there are more Dingwall-less people out there, anxious to get one, that will to be proud to own them, and I guess they might think in a similar fashion. I wouldn't represent people with more Dingwalls or people that are too afraid to even try one out. EDIT: I've just seen a [url=http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477775:1o4ncv6y]thread on Talkbass[/url:1o4ncv6y] with [url=http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/kennyallyn/LakePlacidTwo.jpg:1o4ncv6y]Lake Placid Blue[/url:1o4ncv6y] basses. They look simple, beautiful, and might just be possible to do on an offshore bass. Just a suggestion, if it hasn't been considered. I have rendered it a minute ago but closed photoshop without saving first :oops:
12 years ago
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#12310
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That rust looks really good, but I would be voting for a green. I really like the look of that Sklar green. Enigma, I couldn't agree with you more. I don't want a colour that every other bass manufacturer/player has. This is a Dingwall, like a Lambo, they aren't traditional. No one needs another Civic (Fender) to look at, lets make this different. I want the ones who aren't guitar freaks and won't know how rare the bass is to say "WOW look at that bass!!". IMO Nothing against Fenders or Honda's, they both make quality product, but when its all you see it gets old. Sorry for the car analogy, its my other passion.
12 years ago
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[quote="Bocete":2k2txsf0]I'd see if any of [url=http://www.music-man.com/instruments/basses/stingray-5.html:2k2txsf0]those[/url:2k2txsf0] are plausible for an off-shore bass...[/quote:2k2txsf0] Ohhhh man, that Olive Gold with the Gold Swirl pickguard... Anybody else down for a limited run? :roll:
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