Wednesday, 23 March 2011
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I really wish someone had the time to devote to a registry. It would have to be out of necessity someone in the Dingwall shop, or someone with access to Sheldon's records, but understandably they are busy making the world's finest basses. I feel a pang of guilt whenever I or someone else acquires a "used" Dingwall and submits a query for the "birthdate". AFAIK Sheldon always graciously answers these petitions. Ritter does a pretty good job with publishing information about their basses on their website, so potential second hand owners can research one of their instruments with ease. Dingwall is probably too much of a handful to do that though.... Perhaps some trusting soul with an address in Saskatoon would lovingly volunteer for this assignment? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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I had a mock database set up while I was taking Microsoft Access in school. I'm not in school anymore, but it's funny how you're always busier than you think you'll be. "Oh, i can't wait to get out of school so I'll have more free time!" PFFT! Yeah right! :roll: It's something I've considered doing and would consider again. Is there other members interested? Is there support from the shop? Anyone else that would want to help with it or do it themselves? (Man, getting Fullie's basses in there would take forever! :lol: )
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I would not presume to speak for Sheldon, but based on the number of inquiries he gets on wanting information for a specific serial number, I predict he might be open to letting a dependable customer like you gathering information. I would propose the following: Categorize by years produced: Within those years the Serial numbers and dates of manufacture. If available, model number, wood used, special features assigned to that serial number. Lastly, pics if available. If I were doing it, I would start with 2011 production and work backwards, as records and descriptions may get sketchy as the years go back. Then, as on the Ritter site, those wanting to identify themselves as the owner of XXXX SN of year XXXX could lay claim to the bass, or leave it blank if wanting to remain anonymous. This could be an addition to the existing forum without a huge expenditure of time or money on Sheldon's part, serve the Dingwall community immensely, and generate untold excitement and future purchases of being able to view specific woods, models, configurations etc to all future Dingwall purchasers. We're counting on you Grand Enigma! I would propose a paypal account set up in your honor to accept this assingment if you are so willing and Sheldon and company agreed!
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Sheldon and the gang are so forward thinking, I get the feeling that the majority of their time and resources are dedicated to production and evolution. Also, there seems to be a huge amount of time and effort given to "reaching out" and getting feedback from us, and I absolutely LOVE that. I don't know, but based on the information and responses I've seen there's probably solid records on the basses built in the "new" shop. I believe all the records and info from the old shop were lost in the great fire, so statistics and data on "Pre-Fire" intruments may really benefit from customer data. That being said, it's fairly easy to determine a relative date based on product features such as fret size, wood selection, as well as other build features.
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That seems to be a good way of going about it Rollerberg. I think that would be a good idea. A problem might be trying to keep up with production. I don't know how many basses Sheldon & Co build in a month, but I bet it's a few, especially if Combustions are included. Lowphat, I agree pre-fire info would be a great help. It would also be in interesting exercise in tracking down and sorting instruments without their information. Life is busy (as everyone knows) and I'm not sure where I could fit it in with the other things I have to do, but I would enjoy the opportunity to work with Dingwall. I am open to the idea, but by no means have accepted it. I want to hear what Sheldon has to say, and also I don't want to take this opportunity away from anyone else if they are interested in it as well.
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[quote="rollerberg2000":3ec3pehz]I really wish someone had the time to devote to a registry. It would have to be out of necessity someone in the Dingwall shop, or someone with access to Sheldon's records, but understandably they are busy making the world's finest basses. [/quote:3ec3pehz] I would rather them continuing to make good basses rather than become historians. [quote="rollerberg2000":3ec3pehz] I feel ... AFAIK Sheldon always graciously answers these petitions.[/quote:3ec3pehz] Precisely, email Sheldon = you get the answer - How can you improve on that? [quote="rollerberg2000":3ec3pehz] Ritter does a pretty good....[/quote:3ec3pehz] An Audi R8 comes with 4 CD Roms of user manuals, diagnostic software, certificates of ownership, detailed parts codes, worldwide listing of parts availabilty, and a lot of "anorak bs", but I'd rather get in the car and burn rubber... seeeyaaa, brooooom! [quote="rollerberg2000":3ec3pehz]Perhaps some trusting soul with an address in Saskatoon would lovingly volunteer for this assignment? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:[/quote:3ec3pehz] I would still prefer a Dingwall employee hand contouring a neck radius than to be in a vault dusting archives.
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Is it really that important to know when your bass was built? I have no idea when mine Z3 was built and I honestly think it is a waste of Sheldon's time to look it up. Especially since everyone here is, for some reason, really curious about this... The whole idea of a registry works well for Ritter, but I'm pretty sure the output of basses is significantly smaller than Dingwall.
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Date of birth is good if you want to know which pickups/pre you have, what kind of switching etc, there are a few things that have changed a while over time. If buying used, such a registry would be useful to see which "version" of the model is behind the s/n, and to verify the seller as the owner of course. That said, I too would rather have the gurus do their magic then do paperwork.
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I think that's Rollerberg's point. Have someone who lives in Saskatoon but isn't an employee run the registry. That way, there can be detailed information from the Dingwall records and Sheldon and crew can keep making basses. It's a win-win situation. The less time Sheldon spends looking up birthdays, the more time he spends building basses. If there is something that can ease his work load, why not do it? It's better for all the forum, and all Dingwall enthusiasts in general. My opinion FWIW. Keep the opinions coming!
10 years ago
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Jesse's working on it. It's part of a whole ordering, production management database overhaul so it will be brought out when the new system goes online. In the mean time we'll answer birthdate questions as best as possible and as time allows.
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Perhaps I wasn't clear, I am in complete agreement with statements that Sheldon and crew have better things to do than work up a registry. I was "implying" maybe one of our fellow Dingaholics who live nearby could volunteer to work on this if they had time. :wink: If the shop were near me and Sheldon would allow it, I would volunteer my time to work on creating a registry. Maybe I'm a nerd, but that sounds like fun to me! Or maybe I'm just a little too "into" Dingwall's. :oops: The historian in me would like to have a coffee table book on the history of Dingwall someday as well. Sheldon is still a young man and Dingwall a young company, but already part of that history has been erased with the fire. I know a lot of information is here in the forum, but even then, the oldest posts get deleted.
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I'll buy the first Dingwall coffee table book. Glad to see a registry coming up. I have always believed them to be a great knowledge and security resource. Why isn't there a Dingwall Guitars Wikipedia page? Mark
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[quote="Mark L":3i7yawkd]Why isn't there a Dingwall Guitars Wikipedia page?[/quote:3i7yawkd] I've often wondered that too, but I've never tried to build one. I neither have a wikipedia account, nor the information to put in a page like that. I hear it's bad ettiquite to edit or make your own wikipedia page as well, so I never asked Sheldon about it. [quote="Sheldon Dingwall":3i7yawkd]Jesse's working on it. It's part of a whole ordering, production management database overhaul so it will be brought out when the new system goes online. In the mean time we'll answer birthdate questions as best as possible and as time allows.[/quote:3i7yawkd] I guess that settles it then. I can't wait. I hope there's pictures! :twisted:
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Having a searchable database of guitars/SNs/birthdates/features would be great. If pictures were included, it might be advisable to watermark them so they don't end up being used for bogus auctions or sales. It would be interesting to have a broader current location published, ie province/country, however I think that any ownership info, if submitted, should have the option of remaining private.
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Yes, making music with these instruments is the whole reason they were created, but sneering at people who want to document their history is narrow minded and short sighted. Dingwall basses and guitars are unique and special, and so is the Dingwall company. I say this not as a mere product fan boy, so bear with me as I wrap myself in the flag. As a Canadian, I am proud of what Sheldon has accomplished. I would be even more proud if I lived in Saskatchewan. I think the Dingwall company has a great future and I don't want its beginnings to be lost in obscurity. It has already been what, 15 or 20 years since Sheldon made his first basses? There is a legend in Canada of the AVRO Arrow. Many Canadians are proud of this 1950s fighter jet that was decades ahead of its time but we know little about it because the government scrapped it and destroyed all the prototypes. It's a national shame. Dingwall basses are the AVRO Arrows of bass guitar design. Fortunately, Dingwall is a private company, so there is no Diefenbaker to kill it. Let's not let its history slip away simply because we're all too cool to look back. Now I'll step off my soap box and fold up my flag. Let me know where I can submit all the details for my Dingwalls from 2005, 2006 & 2007.
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^^^^^Well said.
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[quote="metalstorm":1cy9f1i2]The whole idea of a registry works well for Ritter, but I'm pretty sure the output of basses is significantly smaller than Dingwall.[/quote:1cy9f1i2] I've used the MM and Ric registries in the past. It doesn't have to be a small builder. I think it's a great idea. Mark
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[quote="rollerberg2000":24fusrcu]^^^^^Well said.[/quote:24fusrcu] +1 on that! I myself am definitely proud of Sheldon, being from Saskatoon! I'm an amateur AVRO Arrow fan. They have a full scale model (not on display) at a museum just outside of Edmonton. They also have a control box or something on display that was from one of the original planes. (Sorry for the derail.)
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[quote="TheGrandEnigma":2ftadoan] They have a full scale model (not on display) at a museum just outside of Edmonton. (Sorry for the derail.)[/quote:2ftadoan] That model might be from the movie that was shot here in Winnipeg in the late 1990s. (Sorry for continuing the derailment.)
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