Sunday, 05 October 2008
  0 Replies
  1.9K Visits
0
Votes
Undo
  Subscribe
First of all, I would NEVER think of selling my Dingwall....period....but I had a revelation recently: I often carry my bass with me on short convenience store stops to and from gigs, and even between sets in certain venues while bandmates are happy to leave their axes on stage. People sometimes comment, "is that an expensive bass or something?". My response in generally not so much that the bass is "expensive", it was pretty inexpensive when I got it, it would just be difficult to find a comparable instrument, and I don't mean in terms of quality, just that it's pretty much an obsolete model. A really basic "Prima" if you will. Then I start to think, "how much would a bass like this sell for?". Relatively low production numbers coupled with high customer satisfaction makes finding comps difficult, but perhaps a bigger factor is Fullrange. Is it possible the great gobbler of Dingwall(bless his heart, I'm envious!) has made it difficult if not impossible to realize an insurance value on a bass like mine? I wonder... At least it's reassuring to know that if my bass was ever stolen it would probably end-up in Fully's museum, safe and sound until I could buy it back!!
13 years ago
·
#11340
0
Votes
Undo
One of the comforting aspects of owning a Dingwall to me is if it were ever stolen I'm pretty confident it would turn up again. It's not like a Fender _____fill in the blank, they're a little hard to miss. If my bass were stolen for example, it would be sold for drug money or whatever a thieving bastard needs, it would then likely fall into the hands of a player who would be curious about his new acquisition. A quick Google search would lead him to this forum where I would be screaming from a new forum called Stolen Dingwalls: HELP ME GET MY BABY BACK! REWARD!!!!!!! Followed by serial numbers and a few choice four letter words if Sheldon would permit. Resale value is hard to pin down, I got mine used, actually third hand from JEDI BASS. He was gracious enough to sell it to me for what he had in it, and could have gotten more for it, but because it was a local cash transaction, he didn't have the hassle of listing it, shipping it, fretting over payment, etc, etc. It doesn't matter what I've played in the past, my equipment does not leave my sight except for potty breaks. I don't even let anyone help me tear down, I have a system, and I am ultimately the one person in the world who cares about whether or not the silver grill and tolex gets ripped on my Ampeg SVT-AV. You get the picture. I'm not going to carry my Dingwall to the bathroom with me, but I don't live in fear that someone will take it from me. Think about it. Would a thief knowingly steal something that high profile and try to sell it? I think this statement applies to all Dingwall owner's and bass players in general. Because Fullie is the most prolific collector of Dingwall's the possiblility exists he could eventually come across a stolen Dinger. I think he would do the same as most of us, he would research his new acquisition, find out it was stolen, and do everything in his power to return it to its rightfull owner, probably on his dime if I know him at all. The bass player's community is pretty special, and the Dingwall community is exceptional. Each person I've had the fortune to interact or transact with on this forum is top of the heap when it comes to character. Quite a rare thing in this world don't you think?
13 years ago
·
#11341
0
Votes
Undo
I used to just leave my Yamaha and my carvin's on stage for short periods, can't do that with the ABII's. The replacement value on both would be $7200 + $1500 for the amp (B1500, DBX 160X compressor, Dr Bass 212 on order). If I wanted to hang now days I'd have both basses with me at all times. My main gigs lately are Houses of Worship and they're not even safe there.
13 years ago
·
#11342
0
Votes
Undo
[quote="Funkshwey":xgu210nb]My main gigs lately are Houses of Worship and they're not even safe there.[/quote:xgu210nb] So Dingwalls aren't even safe amongst the "saved"... :lol:
13 years ago
·
#11343
0
Votes
Undo
[quote="lowphatbass":9lylbhxj] At least it's reassuring to know that if my bass was ever stolen it would probably end-up in Fully's museum, safe and sound until I could buy it back!![/quote:9lylbhxj] I am most humbled to hear this. If a stolen bass ended up my way (highly unlikely cause I think I would know it was a stolen one, so I would inform all interest parties in a fast and effective way), I would gladly return it to the original owner. I am still keeping an eye for the 6str that was stolen in the Toronto area some months ago. (any update on this?) The Dingwall registry would allow sufficient info to track Dingwall basses (at least the ones made before the "Combustion" line takes over the market) As far as the safety of my bass, I am sort of Marcus Miller approach: my bass stays with me even if it means that I'm carrying it for hours on my shoulder (unless my brother keeps an eye on it)
13 years ago
·
#11344
0
Votes
Undo
[quote="fullrangebass":1x6yxvle] . I am still keeping an eye for the 6str that was stolen in the Toronto area some months ago. (any update on this?) [/quote:1x6yxvle] The Toronto Star had an article about it late september. here's the link http://www.thestar.com/comment/columnis ... cle/501837 Looks like it hasn't been found yet (there was an update on Sept 30 on the facebook group page [url:1x6yxvle]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=58792385526[/url:1x6yxvle]) but there's a big fundraiser on October 29th that came out of this theft and it looks like they will be raising money for Regent Park School of Music.
13 years ago
·
#11345
0
Votes
Undo
Wow, I never heard of the bass stolen in Toronto (or had forgotten about it...). I'll keep an eye out for that since I am in a neighboring city. Last evening we had a gig and we arranged to do the load in and load out with one person in the bar and another at the cars so there is always someone on watch at either end. I have also recently inquired and am in the process of inquiring about instrument insurance. It's either covered under property insurance or really expensive if you are considered professional (i.e. get paid). There does not seem to be any middle ground for the hobby musician who gigs occasionally.
13 years ago
·
#11346
0
Votes
Undo
[quote="Avatarshark":2u8dc6kv][quote="fullrangebass":2u8dc6kv] . I am still keeping an eye for the 6str that was stolen in the Toronto area some months ago. (any update on this?) [/quote:2u8dc6kv] The Toronto Star had an article about it late september. here's the link http://www.thestar.com/comment/columnis ... cle/501837 Looks like it hasn't been found yet (there was an update on Sept 30 on the facebook group page [url:2u8dc6kv]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=58792385526[/url:2u8dc6kv]) but there's a big fundraiser on October 29th that came out of this theft and it looks like they will be raising money for Regent Park School of Music.[/quote:2u8dc6kv] It seems our friend may have cleverly identified another function of this forum, the opportunity for us all to look out for each other in case this ever happens to one of us! The 'Show us your Dingwall' thread may help too as it contains photographic evidence! Another photo thread that comes to mind is 'This is what happens to low-lives that steal DWs' :P I will leave the content up to you good folks imaginations. Regards N
13 years ago
·
#11347
0
Votes
Undo
I had my cell phone stolen out of my car about a year ago when loading out, between trips back inside to get more gear. Luckily, my Dingwalls were still inside, but they could have been lifted very easily by somebody in the club, not to mention the [i:2wpofh0w][b:2wpofh0w]tool[/b:2wpofh0w][/i:2wpofh0w] that took my phone, had they been in the car. Now I never leave them unattended, except for breaks between sets. It makes me sick to read about the poor chap in Montreal that lost his 6'er. A thief doesn't care if it's high-end or low-end gear when they seize an opportunity. They would take a $6000 bass and be happy to get $100 for it. It's true - NOBODY loves your equipment like you do. May a pox descend on all gear thieves! I still think the Dingwall registry is a great idea. Mark
13 years ago
·
#11348
0
Votes
Undo
This thread got me thinking - I would surely check the serial here if I were to buy a Dingwall from some guy that offered me one on the street, but what I gave 5000$ for that stolen 6 stringer, afterwards finding out that it was stolen? Sure, I'd gladly give it to the previous owner, but that leaves me hard earned 5000$ short, and sad for not having a DW I paid for.. I imagined this: that happened, and everyone in this great community has chipped in for a new bass for the finder. It's pretty Disney, but I really find the idea plausible, at least with DW worshippers. I really do. Of course, it would be a surprise for his birthday, on a sunny day, with people dancing in the streat and flying with umbrellas.. Wow, you people are awesome ^^
13 years ago
·
#11349
0
Votes
Undo
[quote="Bocete":2u52vt0o]This thread got me thinking - I would surely check the serial here if I were to buy a Dingwall from some guy that offered me one on the street, but what I gave 5000$ for that stolen 6 stringer, afterwards finding out that it was stolen? Sure, I'd gladly give it to the previous owner, but that leaves me hard earned 5000$ short, and sad for not having a DW I paid for.. I imagined this: that happened, and everyone in this great community has chipped in for a new bass for the finder. It's pretty Disney, but I really find the idea plausible, at least with DW worshippers. I really do. Of course, it would be a surprise for his birthday, on a sunny day, with people dancing in the streat and flying with umbrellas.. Wow, you people are awesome ^^[/quote:2u52vt0o] I'm good for a couple of hundred if that ever happens :). They may have to 'settle' for an AB, though. :wink: Mark
13 years ago
·
#11350
0
Votes
Undo
[quote="guitarded":333lt7r7] It makes me sick to read about the poor chap in Montreal that lost his 6'er. Mark[/quote:333lt7r7] It was Toronto.
13 years ago
·
#11351
0
Votes
Undo
[quote="Smallmouth_Bass":3fe0dhb7][quote="guitarded":3fe0dhb7] It makes me sick to read about the poor chap in Montreal that lost his 6'er. Mark[/quote:3fe0dhb7] It was Toronto.[/quote:3fe0dhb7] I'm so far removed down here behind the Pine Curtain that it's all the same to me. :wink: Mark
13 years ago
·
#11352
0
Votes
Undo
I am thinking that the Dingwall Registry Excel should turn into a Power Point Presentation that the first slide be the Excel and the rest be pics with main and unique identifiable views (as well as ownership history)
13 years ago
·
#11355
0
Votes
Undo
Hey Fullie, Don't you have or didn't you start a registry at one time? I think its a great idea. Maybe we could get a sticky on the forum and add/make changes as they become necessary. Jeff
13 years ago
·
#11356
0
Votes
Undo
Yep, and the Dingwall registry is almost complete from my side (nearly all my herd has been registered; I need to weigh them though :cry: ) Now I need to turn it into Power Point Presentation and start adding the files of anyone interested to add their own. Now, I could do this for every Dingwall bass produced for the humble salary of a Dingwall per year :wink:
13 years ago
·
#11357
0
Votes
Undo
[quote="fullrangebass":2k6y9wa0]Yep, and the Dingwall registry is almost complete from my side (nearly all my herd has been registered; I need to weigh them though :cry: ) Now I need to turn it into Power Point Presentation and start adding the files of anyone interested to add their own. Now, I could do this for every Dingwall bass produced for the humble salary of a Dingwall per year :wink:[/quote:2k6y9wa0] Given how many you've got, you're already being paid at full rate :)
13 years ago
·
#11358
0
Votes
Undo
In all humility, I will be happy to take on the task of registering every Dingwall made and keep up with changes for the remainder of my life in exchange for Fullie's latest Z3. :lol:
13 years ago
·
#11359
0
Votes
Undo
In all reality, there's a 'hidden' feature to Dingwall basses, and while we have proof that any bass can get stolen, really its very hard to pass a stolen Dingwall. Even AB's are 'rare' in the real world and for many of us, we probably own the only example in that color/layout/option package in hundreds of miles. If one shows up in a shop, its a rare occasion and would be fairly easy to ascertain its origin. If one goes missing, its also fairly easy to describe to music store employees and the local authorities as well as to spread the word here and on Talkbass, or other forums. Most of us also have extensive photographic evidence of our babies...I know that I've got detailed pictures of pretty much every aspect of my bass. Of course, thieves aren't picky. Lots of times, they don't know what they're stealing and are just grabbing any 'black case' that is unattended. Keeping a close eye is the only solution, as we all know. There's a small piece of mind knowing that it would be extremely hard to fence a Dingwall!
12 years ago
·
#11934
0
Votes
Undo
my first dingwall was stolen when the church it was in was broken into. 24 hours later the police had it in their possession. when I found out it was stolen, sheldon helped me contact all the local music stores and they kept an eye out. when it came in, they locked the doors and called the cops. I rewarded the shop folks with a nice big bottle of scotch. hallelujah for the dingwall reputation! Jeff
12 years ago
·
#11935
0
Votes
Undo
Wow, that's great to hear that you got your bass back so quickly! Yours is one of my favorites. Don't tell me you leave that bass alone in church, do you?
  • Page :
  • 1
  • 2
There are no replies made for this post yet.
Be one of the first to reply to this post!