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[size=150:2qcrbm4t]I've linked ffstrings@yahoo.com to accept payments via Paypal directly If you know exactly what you want. Please make a note of what model and how many sets. It's perfectly ok to mix the PFNS and PFSS sets in the order if you want to take advantage of the pricing discount for multiple sets. This should help streamline this process. [/size:2qcrbm4t] [size=150:2qcrbm4t][color=#8080FF:2qcrbm4t]Payson Fanned Stainless Steel Bass Strings[/color:2qcrbm4t][/size:2qcrbm4t] 37"-34" Fanned Scale Gauges are .130T .105T .85T .65T .45 [b:2qcrbm4t][color=#BF00FF:2qcrbm4t][size=150:2qcrbm4t] $38.00 .35C string $7.50 Paypal $6.00 Shipping ConUS International Shipping $25 flat rate most places. Please PM your Paypal email and specify how many sets[/size:2qcrbm4t][/color:2qcrbm4t][/b:2qcrbm4t] [b:2qcrbm4t][size=150:2qcrbm4t][color=#8000FF:2qcrbm4t]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Payson-Fanned-Fret-Bass-Strings/103865739666662[/color:2qcrbm4t][/size:2qcrbm4t][/b:2qcrbm4t] [color=#8000FF:2qcrbm4t]Artwork by Bocete[/color:2qcrbm4t]
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These arrived today. They sound great and are ready for immediate shipping.
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How much heavier are these strings compared to the Dingwall 5 str set?
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[quote="Mark L":xy8smfay]How much heavier are these strings compared to the Dingwall 5 str set?[/quote:xy8smfay] Hi Mark, As far as gauge Voodoo's are: .127T .95T .75T .55 .45 Payson Fanned SS and Nickel Steel are: .130T .105T .85T .65T .45 They are firmer than Voodoo's but less firm than the 1st round of La Bella's. They are also way more balanced tension wise than the 1st round of La Bella's. They're firm but not choked and surprisingly easy for vibrato. There's a proprietary reason for that. My action is stupid low and the neck is almost straight. Having put the Payson Fanned SS set on last night the neck didn't move from where it was set with the Payson Fanned Nickel Steel strings which is exactly what I was shooting for. So you can switch back and forth between the Nickel and SS and not have to do any setup work. Also there are no major intonation issues. Deep and bright with just a little more fundamental because of the slightly larger string gauge.
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Sorry about the double posting, my pc froze when I clicked "submit"
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Forgive my ignorance, am I reading this right? Does this mean that we can now get these strings on to replace Voodoo's without having to alter trussrod and saddle heights? It was the only deterrant issue that I had with the Labella because I didnt want to change the factory setup on my basses, but if these are going to be "plug and play" then I am interested. And also I'd like to ask, are they going to be available in different scale lengths i.e. will there be a suitable set for the SJ 5's series, since the scale on them is shorther than the Afterburner's? Thanks in advance.
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[quote="Grand Wazoo":rnvdwl7q]Forgive my ignorance, am I reading this right? Does this mean that we can now get these strings on to replace Voodoo's without having to alter trussrod and saddle heights? It was the only deterrant issue that I had with the Labella because I didnt want to change the factory setup on my basses, but if these are going to be "plug and play" then I am interested.[/quote:rnvdwl7q] If you don't mind me answering, I'm not Funk.. The description on the package says you can switch between Payson SS and Nickel strings without any intermediate setup whatsoever. However, Payson strings are a bit firmer then Voodoo-s, so some setup might need to be done. From what I've read, Payson strings allow lower action without additional buzz so that setup change might be for the better. So, once you go Payson, you can alternate between Payson strings of different types without altering setup.
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My adjustment when I put the Payson nickels on the AB-1's was merely a small tightening of the truss rod. 1/4 to 1/2 a turn. The result brought the action down a bit, lower than it has ever been, with less rattle and buzz. I didn't need to mess with the bridge saddles, height and intonation stayed the same. All of the set up hardware on the Dingwalls is super durable and easy to use. I tune down half a step and the Payson strings work very well with downtuning. I could have lowered the saddles a bit and got away with it, but my heavy handed techniques sound better with a little room to move. I swapped the regular and heavy B strings back and forth a few times, the string change took maybe thirty seconds. Once you have a couple sets cut and wound, the string swap would be very fast. I haven't tried the Payson stainless steels, I much prefer the feel of nickel. I really like the Payson nickel strings. They have quite a bit more punch, and warm, dark tone. They are a big improvement over the Labella strings. If enough Super J owners get on board, perhaps Payson will get some nickel strings going for the SJ's :wink: .
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[quote="Grand Wazoo":i8wtaqx6]Forgive my ignorance, am I reading this right? Does this mean that we can now get these strings on to replace Voodoo's without having to alter trussrod and saddle heights? It was the only deterrant issue that I had with the Labella because I didnt want to change the factory setup on my basses, but if these are going to be "plug and play" then I am interested. And also I'd like to ask, are they going to be available in different scale lengths i.e. will there be a suitable set for the SJ 5's series, since the scale on them is shorther than the Afterburner's? Thanks in advance.[/quote:i8wtaqx6] Hi Grand Wazoo, Bocete and Singlemalt summed it up very well. The most you'll need to do is a slight tightening of the truss rod. SJ strings are not on the immediate horizon, but I know what gauges I'd use.
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Here's some close ups of the purple ball ends. After having played these for almost a week the PFSS strings are just a little more springy feeling. Maybe 1%-2% less tension than the PFNS strings, almost not worth mentioning, very subtle.
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Very cool, Payson. I was wondering how we would keep the sets straight. I like the purple ball ends.
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Sorry to go OT on you, Funk, but I can't help myself: that's a gorgeous straight-grain top on your bass! :D What kind of wood is it?
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Hi fff, Thank you. It's a bubinga top with walnut body. It sat on BC's site for a couple of years untouched. I think because there was a blonde streak going down the back of the book matched walnut body, which I love btw. It's a semi chambered version that Sheldon did for a short while right before he went to a more generous chambering and scroll holes. It's almost like zebra wood. [quote="fff-bass":1yfbn1kg]Sorry to go OT on you, Funk, but I can't help myself: that's a gorgeous straight-grain top on your bass! :D What kind of wood is it?[/quote:1yfbn1kg]
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[quote="fff-bass":25cy96hd]Sorry to go OT on you, Funk, but I can't help myself: that's a gorgeous straight-grain top on your bass! :D What kind of wood is it?[/quote:25cy96hd] I tried to capture the grain and the blonde on the back. The neck also has some really nice 3D black grain going through it.
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What a BEAUTIFUL instrument! I've never seen bubinga with such nice straight grain; it really does remind me of zebrano. And you're right; the blonde "racing stripe down the back (where most people will never see it) is totally cool; yet again, kudos to Sheldon for his excellent taste. Thanks a million for the eye candy!
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Mine looks very much like yours, with the exception that the body is mahogany.
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OK, I put a set on my Z3 Saturday and took it to the gig that night. The tighter feel I'm not used to, but no big deal. Once I had them on I tightened the truss rod about 1/4 turn, then I had to lower the saddles. The action seemed to go lower than I can go with stock strings, but I didn't measure to compare. Also, the B and G strings are very close to the edge of the neck on a Z3, not great for aggressive playing. Sometimes the G string would slip off the side of the neck above and below the 12th, but much less so with the Paysons. The strings seem to punch up the low end and mids, not that a Z3 needs help with mids - it has more available than can be used, really, but I had to roll back the mids more with these strings. I haven't been happy with the neck pickup tone the first-gen Fatty provides, but it seems to really change for the better with the Paysons. I was going to install a Ptone Fatty in the neck position, but I'll wait to see how the strings age. Good job on the strings, Payson. Thank you. Which C string would I add to the set to make it a 6er? Mark
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[quote="Mark L":36u3la0p]OK, I put a set on my Z3 Saturday and took it to the gig that night. The tighter feel I'm not used to, but no big deal. Once I had them on I tightened the truss rod about 1/4 turn, then I had to lower the saddles. The action seemed to go lower than I can go with stock strings, but I didn't measure to compare. Also, the B and G strings are very close to the edge of the neck on a Z3, not great for aggressive playing. Sometimes the G string would slip off the side of the neck above and below the 12th, but much less so with the Paysons. The strings seem to punch up the low end and mids, not that a Z3 needs help with mids - it has more available than can be used, really, but I had to roll back the mids more with these strings. I haven't been happy with the neck pickup tone the first-gen Fatty provides, but it seems to really change for the better with the Paysons. I was going to install a Ptone Fatty in the neck position, but I'll wait to see how the strings age. Good job on the strings, Payson. Thank you. Which C string would I add to the set to make it a 6er? Mark[/quote:36u3la0p] Cool, I'm glad you're diggin' 'em. I have 10 C singles for 6 shooters if you're interested. $7.50ea One trick I did on my ABII-5 bridge to keep the G string from sliding off is to place the thinnest plastic pick, or a very thin metal gauge feeler would work too, between the saddle foundation and the main bridge part to cheat it in towards the middle of the neck. If you tighten the wrong foundation screw 1st it torques the saddle towards the edge of the neck and at an angle if you're not careful. I'm very anal about this. I also tighten the allen screw that's closest to the B string 1st. It keeps it from twisting and actually affecting intonation. I also do it with the D string saddle. I do the opposite with my B string, I put the temp spacer so the B goes towards the edge more. These are all very fine nano adjustments that come together to work well. I'm not sure if you have that luxury on a Z bridge. One thing I'd like to see Sheldon incorporate into his saddle foundations is a sideways adjustment set screw that comes stock on the Hipshot A bridge. I used to have the sliding G string off the neck problem too. Besides doing those set up tricks I have really concentrated on my hammer on technique and anchoring more firmly the lowest note as I hammer on-off. That was part of my problem as well. There's no graceful way to recover from a string pulled off the neck.
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Took the Z3 with the nickle Paysons to work again last night. I really like the strings. The Z is so easy to play anyway, but the stock strings seemed too slinky. I dont have that problem with stock strings on my other Dingwalls. :? Anyway, a heavier gauge is just what this bass needed. Awesome.
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[size=150:20s0noxw]I've linked ffstrings@yahoo.com to accept payments via Paypal directly If you know exactly what you want. Please make a note of what model and how many sets. It's perfectly ok to mix the PFNS and PFSS sets in the order if you want to take advantage of the pricing discount for multiple sets. This should help streamline this process. [/size:20s0noxw]
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