Thursday, 23 April 2009
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I'm currently testing Nickle wrapped strings optimized for fanned frets. They sound great with a little more punch and bass than the OEM SS's. I'm still surprised that the manufacturer not only wanted to come on board but that they nailed the string lengths and tapers. The set I currently have is .128T, .105T, .85T, .65T, .45. The tension and tone of these strings is what I originally thought my ABII-5 would feel like. I was getting fret buzz on my A string from around the 6th fret to 10th on the note bloom, it's now gone. The .85 A string is what really sticks out as being more bassy and firm. There's no note warble on these strings or pitch bend when you really dig in. I'm pretty much running the treble wide open with these strings. I'm going to request a couple of sets of .128T, .100T, .80T, .60, .40. The goal is to have a couple of different gauge sets. Light would be: .128T, .95T, .75T, .55, .45 w/an additional medium gauge set yet to be determined. The thicker gauges are really working for me. They're very forgiving to your playing and frets. Since these strings have round cores like OEM Dingwall's the heavier gauge strings don't sound choked. I made very minor adjustments in the saddle heights on the B and D strings. The intonation is still on and appears to be even more stable when digging in when noodling up high.
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Funk-- so what your saying is this will be another Dingwall offering, or an alternative, ie another manufacturer making a string that fits a Dingwall? I'm asking because Dingwall basses are a tiny niche market, and can a manufacturer really justify having a string set for a few hundred layers/yr Do you have any numbers about tension on these strings, is it close to even across all the strings and how much different is it from a standard Dingwall set. On a personal note-- I'm a fan of the Dingwall strings, and prefer the sound of steel, but i have liked nickels over the years on parallel fretted basses-this set certainly would be worth trying.
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Would love to hear more and be kept up to date on these... :D
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[quote="FrankM":3rkror3y]Funk-- so what your saying is this will be another Dingwall offering, or an alternative, ie another manufacturer making a string that fits a Dingwall? I'm asking because Dingwall basses are a tiny niche market, and can a manufacturer really justify having a string set for a few hundred layers/yr Do you have any numbers about tension on these strings, is it close to even across all the strings and how much different is it from a standard Dingwall set. On a personal note-- I'm a fan of the Dingwall strings, and prefer the sound of steel, but i have liked nickels over the years on parallel fretted basses-this set certainly would be worth trying.[/quote:3rkror3y] Yes another offering. The way I think is they can't afford not to come on board. 8) No tension #'s. It's an excellent alternative to SS strings for those looking for a little less zing.
12 years ago
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When will they be available?
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[quote="dsincjr":36rwkhuv]When will they be available?[/quote:36rwkhuv] To be determined.
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Flats a possibility if all goes well? :)
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These look to be pretty good. Flats would be interesting as well. Also, I'm pretty sure that I'd need at least one Dingwall with each set of strings. Sounds like a good excuse to me :D
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[quote="Bocete":1jc1zuow]Flats a possibility if all goes well? :)[/quote:1jc1zuow] Flats are going to be more difficult to pull off tapered for 3 strings, although Sadowsky has a tapered B string flat. I can get a flats type tone on my ABII's by engaging the BlueEqube and rolling the treble all the way back. It's very convincing so I don't think it's a huge necessity. There was a manufacturer that wanted to come on board before but the samples they sent were stock lengths that didn't quite clear the nut. But I think it worked out for the best because their current offerings have hex cores. Hex core is great for helping with loose tension on 34" scale basses, but when you get into extended scale the hex cores choke and lose harmonic content IMHO.
12 years ago
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I tend to kill the SS strings because my fingers sweat when I play. I use Stringlife over the SS strings but would love to try some Nickel strings. Keep me posted! Rob
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[quote="Funkshwey":fn6ndo9h][quote="Bocete":fn6ndo9h]Flats a possibility if all goes well? :)[/quote:fn6ndo9h] Flats are going to be more difficult to pull off tapered for 3 strings, although Sadowsky has a tapered B string flat. I can get a flats type tone on my ABII's by engaging the BlueEqube and rolling the treble all the way back. It's very convincing so I don't think it's a huge necessity. There was a manufacturer that wanted to come on board before but the samples they sent were stock lengths that didn't quite clear the nut. But I think it worked out for the best because their current offerings have hex cores. Hex core is great for helping with loose tension on 34" scale basses, but when you get into extended scale the hex cores choke and lose harmonic content IMHO.[/quote:fn6ndo9h] I believe no new Dingwall is made with a BluEQube, Afterburner or not. Certanly you can EQ in a flatwound direction but that doesn't leave much versatility, and besides, roundwounds would eat through a fretless fingerboard. IMO, flats are still needed, and I'd like to see them in the future :roll:
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Look at all ya'll hangin' on the forum waitin' for the new model. I didn't answer all your questions Frank. I hate it when people do that. In re to string tension being even yes. This particular gauge set is firmer resulting in less fret buzz. Sound is punchier w/a little less zing and more low end. I requested 2 more gauge sets: Light = 128T, .95T, .75T, .55, .45 Medium = .128T, .100T, .80T, .60, .45 Above are the gauges that I foresee will probably go into production, even though I haven't played those gauges yet. I love the .105T .85T and .65T but I'm also taking into consideration that players who are used to OEM Dingwall string will probably prefer those gauges. However if you like super low action, being able to still dig in, and like the tension of flats you might actually prefer the 105T 85T 65T. I want the the prepackaged fanned fret nickle wraps to be perfect out of the gate and I'm carefully taking into consideration everyone's string needs. Frank you're like 45 minutes from me, I'm just sayin'
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I'm about 1 month in to testing the .128T, .105T, .85T, .65T, .45 nickle strings and I have to say I like the tone and feel. It'll be very hard to go back to lighter gauge strings especially on the fretted. The tone is smoother and the action can get lower. With with the larger strings and slightly tighter tension there is less string orbit resulting in a clearly speaking note without warble. Bends are still effortless thanks to the round core and nickle string to nickle fret contact. I actually find the overall tension balance between the strings to be more even with the heavier E,A and D strings. I'm sold. I'm still waiting for slightly smaller diameter strings to arrive.
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This all sound great. So when can we get our hands on some? As someone who is playing tuned down to Eb, I like the idea of slightly heavier strings... Rob
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[quote="xrob":25ztsp50]This all sound great. So when can we get our hands on some? As someone who is playing tuned down to Eb, I like the idea of slightly heavier strings... Rob[/quote:25ztsp50] +1 Mark
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[quote="guitarded":nazz30is][quote="xrob":nazz30is]This all sound great. So when can we get our hands on some? As someone who is playing tuned down to Eb, I like the idea of slightly heavier strings... Rob[/quote:nazz30is] +1 Mark[/quote:nazz30is] I'm still waiting for the lighter gauges. I'll inquire today.
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They'll be running the job next week. So I'd say at least 2 weeks until I receive more samples.
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[quote="Funkshwey":2p5n1fax]They'll be running the job next week. So I'd say at least 2 weeks until I receive more samples.[/quote:2p5n1fax] Will the sample-run sets be for sale or is this just another trial run? Any idea when a production run will occur for these and how long it will be before any of us would have nickel strings on our Dingwalls?
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[quote="xrob":fjdk554w][quote="Funkshwey":fjdk554w]They'll be running the job next week. So I'd say at least 2 weeks until I receive more samples.[/quote:fjdk554w] Will the sample-run sets be for sale or is this just another trial run? Any idea when a production run will occur for these and how long it will be before any of us would have nickel strings on our Dingwalls?[/quote:fjdk554w] These will be another trial run. 2 weeks in the music industry is usually 4 weeks. I'm still working on the details of when they will be available. I need to settle for one standard gauge 1st. After hearing the tone, punch and increased bass of the heavier strings it will most likely be: .128T, .105T, .85T, 65T, .45 or .128T, .100T, .80T, .60, .45.
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Funk, That would be really great if the gauges of the Nickel set were pretty close to the SS strings.
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[quote="Funkshwey":2fnjthri] I was getting fret buzz on my A string from around the 6th fret to 10th on the note bloom, it's now gone. The .85 A string is what really sticks out as being more bassy and firm.[/quote:2fnjthri] I have this exact problem, the only way to overcome it being to raise the action on the A - not a great solution - so these strings sound great. I've always love the fat tone of nickel and the smoother feel so I'm triple-interested - count me in fer a couple o' sets over here in Blighty! Funk: will we have to ask our respective Dingwall dealers to stock them in order to get hold of some?
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