Wednesday, 26 March 2008
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Just restrung my AB-II with a set of voodoos. Wow are they zingy. I didn't realize how much I liked the sound of the worn-in factory voodoos that were on before. How long do you guys find it takes to lose that fresh zing feel and sound and get that strong fundamental tone? I'm really digging the DR Black Beauties I just put on my EBMM Stingray5...any comparable string that would work for an AB-II?? Thanks guys! Xavier
13 years ago
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I'm guessing it took my recent new set about 15 to 20 hours of play time to smooth out. And, yes, I really liked the sound of the Black Beauties I had on my Stingray, too. I'd vote for a set of DW Black Beauties, for sure.
13 years ago
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Brim, It all depends on your fingers and your body chemistry. I have been known to kill a new set of Voodoo strings in less than 3 hours of playing time (live gig, not practice), but my hands sweat and I've always been hard on strings. Your mileage may vary. I know some players whose hands NEVER sweat and they can keep a set sounding fresh for much longer. Keep in mind as well that the material the string is made of will greatly affect the rate of "wear-in." Stainless steel strings are much more prone to deadening but sound brighter when they're new. Nickel tends to be a bit more mellow, but keeps the "zing" for a bit longer. And then you can look at a hybrid string which will be somewhere in-between. There's also a coated option (like Elixirs) which actually keep your sweaty fingers away from the string until the coating has worn off, allowing a string to sound punchy for months. If you find that the strings are taking too long to lose that zing, find a fellow bass player with sweaty fingers and let them have at your bass. I guarantee it will be a much quicker process. Hope this helps. Rob
13 years ago
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Do you have a bluEQube or Hybrid Treble?
13 years ago
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[quote="xrob":1jst2dw2]I know some players whose hands NEVER sweat and they can keep a set sounding fresh for much longer. [/quote:1jst2dw2] Luckily, that would be me. I can go for over a year (I think I'm at over two on my ABI) and the strings still sound good. I can count the amount of times my hands have sweated. It has to be sweltering hot and just the right conditions. I have had people kill sets of new strings in one song, therefore I generally don't let people play my basses (with some exceptions).
13 years ago
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":1hzjs5ao]Do you have a bluEQube or Hybrid Treble?[/quote:1hzjs5ao] bluEQube
13 years ago
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[quote="xrob":3dhlh34a] It all depends on your fingers and your body chemistry.Rob[/quote:3dhlh34a] I've got fairly dry hands - don't sweat hardly ever. Also, I always wipe down my basses (strings), regardless of playing 30 minutes or 2.
13 years ago
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Brim, What do you use to wipe down your strings? One thing that you may consider...if you're trying to deaden the strings, you might want to avoid wiping them down entirely. That may accelerate the process. Rob p.s. Smallmouth, looks like I won't be playing your bass anytime soon unless you want your strings nice and dead (but at least I don't do it in one song!).
13 years ago
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I found the dingwall strings just unusable for me. They had great string to string balance, and the feel is great, but I just could not deal with the zingy tone. Maybe my bass was just bright to begin with, but I usually dislike stainless strings on any bass. I don't want my bass to sound like a guitar My solution was to go with Ken Smith compressors, polished nickel rounds that Smith carries in the right lengths. I wish Sheldon could bring out some alternative strings--some nickel-wounds or some flats. I assume you could get whoever makes strings to run sets in Dingwall appropriate lengths and gauges. But maybe it'd be too expensive
13 years ago
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Hi Max. As your username suggests, you must be a lover of the vintage sound (my Super PJ nails that 60's tone, esp with the Chrome Flats). If I desire a snappier 70's sound, I either use the pre-amp or I go for... my Marcus Miller 4str (sacrilege, sacrilege.... Fullie owns a Fender!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: ) I suppose that you can remove the zing by using the amp's eq and turning the tweeter off, without going into a model change eg going for a SJ5 or a Super J4 or PJ 4(any excess zing can be shipped my way :wink: ). PS I traded my G&L 2500 5str US for the Marcus Miller. I've sworn I'd never buy a Fender, but trading is something different :wink:
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[quote="maxvintage":3dikcmwl] My solution was to go with Ken Smith compressors, polished nickel rounds that Smith carries in the right lengths. I wish Sheldon could bring out some alternative strings--some nickel-wounds or some flats. I assume you could get whoever makes strings to run sets in Dingwall appropriate lengths and gauges. But maybe it'd be too expensive[/quote:3dikcmwl] I'm wondering if a bunch of us commit to buying a set or two of DW nickel rounds, say, then it might not be too expensive to get a beta batch of strings produced. I'd like to try some nickels but really love the DW gauges and the tapered ends. Sheldon would know much more about the economics of this idea than I, but count me in for several sets if it's at all feasible. John
13 years ago
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Count me in for two 5str sets
13 years ago
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I'd buy two sets of nickel 5s, no hesitation
13 years ago
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We'll get there eventually. The hurdle at this end is the up-front costs of several thousand sets worth of packaging plus design plus 144 set minimum order. We're getting closer though.
13 years ago
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Go for it!
13 years ago
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If Sheldon approves of a Dingwall nickel string design, I am willing to go even for 5 sets, if that brings the minimum order closer to reality
13 years ago
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":326awixt]We'll get there eventually. The hurdle at this end is the up-front costs of several thousand sets worth of packaging plus design plus 144 set minimum order. We're getting closer though.[/quote:326awixt] Yeah, that makes sense. Packaging is something that usually can't be done in small quantities w/o large per unit costs. I'll be ready with an order when the time is right.
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I guess this would be a good opportunity to share some possible FF string options in our future. Right before Namm I sent specs (per Sheldon) and a used set of DW strings to Hugh the head of endorsements at D'Addario so they could see exact measurements, where the strings cross the nut and the taper. The goal is to have them manufacture Chromes optimised for FF's. We're shooting for quick change, maybe just an adjustment of the TR when switching back and forth. The string proposal package has been sent to PD. I also added that we'd like to have Prosteels and Nickle XL's optimised for DW's. This would be perfect timing for both DW and D'Addario w/the addition of the GL series. Can you imagine a set of step tapered Nickle XL hex core strings on a DW. The extra tension would be awesome with less orbit for lower action. We'll see if it pans out.
13 years ago
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[quote="fullrangebass":ntfguvf7]If Sheldon approves of a Dingwall nickel string design, I am willing to go even for 5 sets, if that brings the minimum order closer to reality[/quote:ntfguvf7] per bass...
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[quote="callum":3upwtl5j][quote="fullrangebass":3upwtl5j]If Sheldon approves of a Dingwall nickel string design, I am willing to go even for 5 sets, if that brings the minimum order closer to reality[/quote:3upwtl5j] per bass...[/quote:3upwtl5j] I did not want to make it obvious, but you read my mind :wink:
13 years ago
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22 (dingwalls) x 5 = 110 sets....you've got half the minimum order right there Sheldon!
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