Friday, 11 January 2008
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This is the last project we've been working on for NAMM. It's a little brother to the Afterburner. There are a few details to be worked out and financing to be sourced but the goal is to put this into production at a really attractive street price.
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After burner model prototype is different from all others.we cannot play guitar if we are not our comfort zone. some people jump at the time of playing guitar. so if you have best air mattress pumpbest air mattress pump you can jump as much as you love to. the floor below you will not suffer with your jump . you can sleep over it also. for outdoor purpose you can use it also.
13 years ago
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":ssmaz6ww][quote="Bocete":ssmaz6ww]Any approximations on the release date? Will it be available before Christmas? Thanks![/quote:ssmaz6ww] No, we need to get NAMM out of the way first, then we should have some available in early '09.[/quote:ssmaz6ww] Thanks, keep us informed :wink:
13 years ago
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":1uv04ff5][quote="Joe Smithebrger":1uv04ff5]Any updates? New pics? Heck...anything?[/quote:1uv04ff5] Hi Joe, We're waiting on a sample (hopefully the final one) to arrive the first week of November. At this end we've finalized the pickups and are about to re-tool the production process with help from Fury Guitar. It's been pretty challenging trying to come up with a design that's cost effective and sounds good. We recently had a break-though that's taken us in a total new direction with regard to pickup design. Along with that an exiting new direction in tone. So, for the pickup tweakers, there will be new pickups on the horizon after we get the Combustion out and running.[/quote:1uv04ff5] Cool! Looking forward to finding out about the new design...and also a "New Dingwall Sound" (tm).
13 years ago
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Interesting...
13 years ago
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[quote="Joe Smithebrger":ka3mb4dm]Any updates? New pics? Heck...anything?[/quote:ka3mb4dm] Hi Joe, We're waiting on a sample (hopefully the final one) to arrive the first week of November. At this end we've finalized the pickups and are about to re-tool the production process with help from Fury Guitar. It's been pretty challenging trying to come up with a design that's cost effective and sounds good. We recently had a break-though that's taken us in a total new direction with regard to pickup design. Along with that an exiting new direction in tone. So, for the pickup tweakers, there will be new pickups on the horizon after we get the Combustion out and running.
13 years ago
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[quote="Willem":2xlt7m3t]Will there be passive versions available? Like some lakland skylines which have a preamp as an option... Cause I like passive better...[/quote:2xlt7m3t] According to Sheldon, it's 2-band EQ and active/passive switching.
13 years ago
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Any updates? New pics? Heck...anything?
13 years ago
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[quote="fullrangebass":2vf85xp3]A good start is to forbid that Fullie guy from ordering any more Dingwalls for the next couple of years :wink:[/quote:2vf85xp3] Uh huh. :P Mark
13 years ago
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A good start is to forbid that Fullie guy from ordering any more Dingwalls for the next couple of years :wink:
13 years ago
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let me ask.... if you keep the same scale length, what will the average players think about having to use speciality strings, esp strings you cant walk into guitar center and get
13 years ago
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall"]There have been some changes as this project evolves. 1. The name GL is out. We're not 100% settled on the new name yet, but will be soon. [color=indigo] This is a good idea. I don
13 years ago
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If the string spacing remains the same, I don't think cutting back to 22 frets will be any incentive for slappers to buy it. Definitely keep the AB scale length.
13 years ago
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A few preliminary suggestions Sheldon: Keep the same aspects as the Z's, AB's and budget model consistent ie scale length, STRING SPACING, MAKE THE SC'S HAVE THE SAME SIZE HOUSING as FD3's or the SJ/SJ Phatties SO PEOPLE CAN UPGRADE pu's later. $1200 is around USA Fender and G&L prices. Your potential customers will consider USA to Offshore in their descision. 22 frets should be fine. People who think 22 frets = lesser quality are uneducated. A lot of them think 24 frets = a longer scale, which we know is not true. String spacing should be 18mm so customers can upgrade to an AB bridge if they want (if you will allow that). Being able to upgrade PU's w/out rerouting the cavities is going to be VERY IMPORTANT. That's all I can think of for now Sheldon.
13 years ago
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I am new to the forum as a member although I have been following it regularly, this is going to be my first post. :wink: I personally prefer the feel of 22 frets and the open sound of single coils. Especially if stacked-coil is an option, that will take care of people who don't want to deal with 60-cycle-hum and as far as I know, being the first single-coil option for Dingwall, it may intrigue some single-coil lovers :lol:
13 years ago
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Hi Sheldon $1200 is getting somewhat close to AB1 territory (street circa $1900 for a 4 string), to save costs and re-tooling is there anyway you could work backwards from the current AB1 to achieve the cost savings required to make the price point without serious retooling etc? The 22-24 fret question is so subjective that it is almost a non starter, the bottom line is that some folks will be adamant 22 fret players, some will be 24 fret players and some wont really mind either way, this is most likely a case of not being able to please all the people all the time! I quite liked the GL prototype you showed me although some of the hardware had a cheap look about it (that might just have been the chrome finish), the other unit you showed me (the black one) that came from the supplier really didn't reflect the standard of instrument that we have all come to associate with your fine work. Ideas?, maybe an AB1 with a one piece body outsourced, coming in as few colours as possible, maybe with a 22 fret neck and only 1 pickup and dialled in to a particular Dingwall tone that would provide good general utility but not the specialized range of tones we are starting to demand (respectfully!). I think my jazz tutor has a musicman that seems to be a bit like what I have described, anyhow there is my 10cents worth Regards Nic
13 years ago
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I have no problem with fanned frets and I like 24 frets. If part of the concept is to make the bass "less cluttered", a 22 fret neck is good, too, but I would also like to see wider string spacing, especially down near the nut. I don't think that would add to the productions cost. (As if I knew what I knew what I was talking about.) I also prefer a slightly arched fret board to flat ones. I guess what I've been longing for is a thin (not narrow) Fender style neck but with fanned frets. Would that increase the production cost? Some people like the sound of single coil pick-ups but I would go straight for the stacked single option. I play a few basses with big square heels and they've never bothered me. I probably wouldn't even notice more heel in one of your designs.
13 years ago
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I think that even if the bass selling for 1200 dollars in stores that would be a fair price.
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There have been some changes as this project evolves. 1. The name GL is out. We're not 100% settled on the new name yet, but will be soon. 2. Cost, the deeper we look into all the costs involved, the less likely it will be that we can pull this off for a street of $800. The goal is to keep the price as low as possible, but balance that with an acceptable-to-us level of quality and performance. It has to perform to our standards period. I'd appreciate some feedback as to target pricing. For this to fly we need to appeal to a wider range of players. Ones that are maybe buying their first quality bass, ones that are fanned-fret curious but don't want to spend a great deal on something they're not sure about, ones that need a working instrument to gig with that they can afford to take to less than desirable gigs. 3. Pickups - the off-shore pickups were nice and decent. I don't think they shared enough of the same tone signature that we've developed over the last 8 years that we've been developing our own pickups. So, the plan is to build the pickups ourselves. It will be costly to tool, but if we go with a single-coil design we should be able to make it work. We've tested some single-coil prototypes and the tone is really good. The downside is the single-coil noise when either of the pickups are soloed. Future up-grades could involve a stacked single if their was substantial interest. I'd appreciate some feedback on the pickup choice. 4. I'm considering going with 22 instead of 24. The reason being that our number one complaint is the upper frets. If we reduce the number of upper frets, that area becomes less cluttered looking when viewed from the players perspective. The fan also looks slightly less radical from all view points, the neck looks less long etc. Slap tone gets a little more beefy as you're working the strings a little further from the bridge. The downside is that some people prefer 24 frets and possibly view 24 frets as being higher quality. A 22 fret body requires more heel protrusion meaning the heel intrudes into the playing area an extra two frets worth. (Yes we are going to have a heel on this model). I'd like to hear your comments on 22/24 frets. We also have to envision what the non, but potential Dingwall players are going to prefer. Thanks all. Sheldon
13 years ago
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Welcome to the forum, vikunja. IMHO, you can't go wrong with any of Sheldon's creations. Good luck finding/funding your first Dingwall.
13 years ago
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[quote="vikunja":2yufgcly]This is my first post on this forum! After reading a lot about Dingwall basses and the praise of their B-string I am ready to try one! I also have the new Toto live album and dig Lee Sklars tone he gets from his Z-2. I was seriously considering a z-2 or z-3 but recently got some very high dentist bills so I think this budget Dingwall will suit me fine for the time being! :)[/quote:2yufgcly] Take it from me, another forum reader (for over a year) who took the plunge recently, and got an AB-I 5 and then a 6 string last week...... what you've read here is TRUE!!! I bought both without havind played them, and could not have been happier w/ them! There's no dealer in TN, so when I take mine to the music stores (and especially when I play it) crowds gather!! One employee was a former piano tuner/repairman. He was floored by how clear and piano-like each note was, especially while playing chords. And, when I did a A/B comparison w/ a G&L 5er.... well you know. HEHE !! :D
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