Monday, 21 February 2011
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Having been spurned in my desire to acquire a natural Z3 :D , I'm going to redirect my GAS into having a John East preamp fitted to my ABZ.. Completely reversible, same passive setup, but with all that lovely active goodness on top.. And I get different knobs :) Should be fitted by Mr East himself towards the end of next week (he only lives 45 minutes away from me) - I'll let you know how it goes...It should all cost less than £200 (about 300 USD) Some interesting (perhaps not relevant) clips here.. http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=123987&hl= P-RETRO 01 ========== * Continue using your 4 WAY PICKUPS SWITCH * Stack Knob – VOLUME / PASSIVE TONE, Push / Pull ACTIVE/PASSIVE * Stack knob – DUAL BOOST >> Combined control system giving MID BOOST / VARIABLE FREQUENCY when turned clockwise & BASS/TREBLE BOOST / VARIABLE CONTOUR, when turned anti-clockwise. * Includes rechargeable battery which is charged via a phone style charger which plugs into the jack.
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That looks interesting :shock: Please post a soundclip if possible :)
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Will do... Something similar to the link I posted from BassChat...
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Sounds pretty cool- These are great sounding pre-amps w/ a ton of flexibility I have a custom EAST pre-amp in my SuperJ, Sheldon installed it during the build
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markstuk, Good luck. I'm sure the John East preamp will sound great. Here's my AB2 with JE preamp (2 sweepable mids): [img:3w4pvp79]http://www.liveactionhero.com/franco/Dingwall_Retro.jpg[/img:3w4pvp79]
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cool.. do you have a picture? [quote="FrankM":3erhqo84]Sounds pretty cool- These are great sounding pre-amps w/ a ton of flexibility I have a custom EAST pre-amp in my SuperJ, Sheldon installed it during the build[/quote:3erhqo84]
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Hey- there are a bunch of photos of my SuperJ prototype on the thread "show yer dingwall- page 1 viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5&start=0 I've been a Dingwall fanatic for a very long time. [img:41yzeiy7]http://www.synmicro.com/prod/itempics/personal/dave/gtg/gtg06.jpg[/img:41yzeiy7]
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Oh wow now I had probably seen a pic of your Super J P/J but I had not noticed before that it had a reversed headstock... was this a custom order, how did that happen and why? Pray tell. :wink:
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I'm booked in to see John tomorrow afternoon.... I'm quite excited :-)
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Grand Wazoo-- there is a very long thread on the conception of and the final building of the SuperJ bass on talkbass I think you might find the history lesson interesting http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/dingwa ... rn-174303/ frank BTW- the back of that black bass on the same stand as my SuperJ, is Sheldons first fretless
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Thanks... it's a very very long thread... I will read it when I am off this ship
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Fitted yesterday, still playing with it, but already impressed.. Will do some proper clips over the weekend... Cheers Mark
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[quote="markstuk":7w1s9cla]Fitted yesterday, still playing with it, but already impressed.. Will do some proper clips over the weekend... Cheers Mark[/quote:7w1s9cla] Hi Mark can you please explain what do the stacked knobs do now and what features has John East fitted now as opposed to standard? Thanks.
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Pretty much as my initial post but here goes.. Stack Knob 1 – VOLUME / PASSIVE TONE - Push / Pull switches between active and passive Stack knob –2 DUAL BOOST >> Combined control system giving MID BOOST / VARIABLE FREQUENCY when turned clockwise & BASS/TREBLE BOOST / VARIABLE CONTOUR, when turned anti-clockwise. No effect in passive mode.. So basically in passive mode you fold the two normal dingwall knobs into one stacked knob.. We used the same capacitor value as sheldon does so passive tone appears to be unaffected.. John uses the spare connector on the Neutrik socket (it's a stereo socket) for charging battery using a 6.35mm jack adaptor.. John says one charge is good for 40 hours... If you're paranoid you can fit (comes as standard) a charge indicator led but I did not want to drill any holes...
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Is the active tone much of a departure from the original passive sound or just more accentuated with the eq as in better / louder / clearer? or just quite similar to passive but with an extra kick? How would you describe the result of this in terms of sounds? Cheers (very intrigued and interested)
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Early days yet, but a bit of both... Certainly a wider range of tones, but also adds some more body into the core tones as well... For various reasons I've not spent a great deal of time a/b ing them yet, will spend a couple of hours on Sunday with it... Cheers MArk
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Forgot to add that the second stack knob can be configured by dip switch to add bass or treble....
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Some initial thoughts based on playing at home - I'm rehearsing on Wednesday so I'll get some feedback from other people.... Basically I've tended to leave the tone control as bright as possible and the volume turned up and my favourite "native" ABZ tone is the parallel PU setting (the quieter of the two middle settings) when playing up to now... When I leave everything "in neutral" on the JE setup and go active, the most noticeable thing is a jump in output, but once I've normalised the volume the tone is slightly more punchy than the passive setup. Now comes the complex bit.. Using the bost knob Anti Clockwise creates a very authoritative scooped sound, although I'm still playing around with the frequency setting.. Turning it clockwise boosts the mids (something that does not really appeal to me) and I'm going to need to spend time working out how this might work for me on some of the other pickup settings. The Bass boost works fine, indeed it's pretty overwhelming in the series pickup position... I'm testing with a completely flat EQ on my RH450/EBS410. I'll update this later this week, but at the moment I'm very pleased... CHeers Mark
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Finally got around to letting rip in a rehearsal last night.. I did not mention to anyone that I had a pre-amp fitted, but after a couple of songs I was asked what I had changed (for the better).. Basically with the active on and a little bit of scoop added at mid frequency it adds significant bite to the core Dingwall sound... It's not dramatic, but I can hear it (and more usefully, so can other people).... Cheers Mark
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Very cool Mark, I am glad you are enjoying it. Another cool mod for ABZ owners. One I wouldn't mind considering, had I not bought an ABII which offers me both the ABZ passive sound and the Glocken-ka-boom preamp ;) makes me appreciate more or less what you are experiencing with a pre-amped ABZ
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