Sheldon posted sound clips here (bass in picture): http://www.dingwallguitars.com/FD3/

Mark- Perhaps

Sheldon makes some of the finest fretli.

Codename: Spyker...inspired by one of the Spyker autos, perhaps? Mark

i though the FD3 page had a fretless dingwall afterburner being played. (http://www.dingwallguitars.com/FD3/) These less than a handful of these basses out there. So maybe-- someone will have it posted.

Has anyone posted any audio clips with a fretless dingwall?

I need to find the thread where Sheldon says that I mentioned that the clarity of the (original) SF's in the B and E string was not as perfect as on the FDs and he progressed on that (so I suppose it makes them SF II)

[quote="guitarded":3kif08eb] Say wahhh? What did I miss here? SF II's? When were they announced? Mark[/quote:3kif08eb] That's what I was thinking! I am not sure the Super Fatties can be improved that much since they sound so good already.

[quote="fullrangebass":2ygjzz8l] The SF I's that came with my Z3 had great singing mids, but the clarity of the B and E strings did not have the clarity that I dearly love. From what I know the SF II have rectified this issue. So I am waiting for my SF II's to form an informed opinion. [/quote:2ygjzz8l] Say wahhh? What did I miss here? SF II's? When were they announced? Mark

Having played Brazil as a fretless, I have to admit it's one smokin' bass and the best fretless I've played (of course). If fretless is your thing, go ahead.

Thanks Fullie.

I think I might get a Combustion to defret myself.

Snotburst's name has been changed into "Brazil" once I got it, cause it reminds me of Brazil's flag It was not fretted originally, but the ramp impeded my dynamics so I decided to turn it into a fretless with a brand new fretless neck. Never regretted the move.

I didn't realize snotburst's was fretless? Did you put a new neck on it?

It was a while that I was looking for a fretless Dingwall before I decided to go ahead with the one I have, and I am glad I went ahead.

Hi Dsincjr Welcome to the DW fretless club I am curious as to how many of us there are playing fretless DWs N

Thanks Fullie. Fretless it is!

The fretlines are definitely visible from the top side of the fingerboard. No need to lean over to see

Thanks for your reply's they have been very helpful. I'm leaning towards a Z3 fretless as I love the ergonomics on my Prima and the Z3 neck should be as close as Sheldon can carve the same size neck on the Z3. One more question, can you easily see the fret lines on the side of the fretboard so you know where they are?

To be honest, I am NOT the world's best (fretted) bass player (let alone fretless ) so no fretless clips (for the time being at least). There was no big learning curve really over the fretless Dingwall. I have been playing fretless since 1999 at the same time that I started playing my "Uber Alles" Prima as well. So for the past few months I've been gelling the two worlds together. It takes a bit of attention in the beginning but after a very short while it all comes together As far as choosing between the Z3 and SJ5 in a fretless form, I cannot firmly comment. The SF I's that came with my Z3 had great singing mids, but the clarity of the B and E strings did not have the clarity that I dearly love. From what I know the SF II have rectified this issue. So I am waiting for my SF II's to form an informed opinion. In terms of plain physics, the "shorter" SJ5 will have a "sweeter" and more mid-specific tone compared with the "extended" Z3. Once the SF are the standard pickups now, it's a matter of choosing the ergonomics that suit you better over the tonal approach you are after