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[url:3lgd0lms]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09i2IO0l1bU[/url:3lgd0lms]

??? Please spill!? Available when? Will I see one in Montreal this summer? Is it heavy? Too many questions!!
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The headstock says "Custom 3"...
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Hi Dean,

I'm not sure if we'll have one at Montreal yet or not. We haven't made up our minds on what we're bringing. We'd better get off our duffs though time's running out.

She's an all mahogany, tone chambered LP shape with Superstrat ergonomics, pickups and scale. It feels and sounds wonderful.
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You mentioned somewhere in a thread that you made some changes from the prototype based on feedback from L&M. Would you mind telling us what those changes are? Or is that a post for the unveiling of the production model?

Tyler
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Hope I can get to see one, perhaps give it a try. I love your take on the LP shape. And I love the tone in the vid. If the neck profile is similar to the C1, I'd really be interested. My C1 is gigged weekly, and is my go to at the moment.
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[quote="Tyler":1e9o6qdx]You mentioned somewhere in a thread that you made some changes from the prototype based on feedback from L&M. Would you mind telling us what those changes are? Or is that a post for the unveiling of the production model?

Tyler[/quote:1e9o6qdx]

Made the FB radius rounder.

We're playing with pickup options and colors to try and dial in the perfect "vibe". The tone and feel's 100%, we're just working on the vibe now.
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[quote="DeanMTL":2ufyfzqe]Hope I can get to see one, perhaps give it a try. I love your take on the LP shape. And I love the tone in the vid. If the neck profile is similar to the C1, I'd really be interested. My C1 is gigged weekly, and is my go to at the moment.[/quote:2ufyfzqe]

It's a little slimmer feeling than the C1. Not in a bad way though.
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Sheldon, congratulation on a great looking guitar. I only hope you won't have the same problems that PRS has had with Gibson Guitar Corporation when they introduced their Singlecut guitar in 2001.

I still remember Paul telling me that at one point he thought he had to give it up and stop making them, because the pressure from Gibson was too much (yes, by the way I know Paul just as I know you in person through trade shows and stuff, he's also a very nice guy same as you are) Anyway I remember the joy when the court rejected the suit from Gibson and I have to say it was a success not just for PRS but for all other indipendent luthiers.

Here is an extract of the events that took place at the time

[color=#80FF00:3h0c8vb8][i:3h0c8vb8]In 2001, when PRS released their "Singlecut" guitar—which bore some resemblance to the venerable Les Paul. Gibson Guitar Corporation filed a trademark infringement lawsuit against Paul Reed Smith. An injunction was ordered and PRS stopped manufacture of the Singlecut at the end of 2004. Federal District Court Judge William J. Haynes, in a 57-page decision ruled "that PRS [Paul Reed Smith] was imitating the Les Paul" and gave the parties ninety days "to complete any discovery on damages or disgorgement of PRS's profits on the sales of its offending Singlecut guitar."

In 2005, the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit reversed the lower court decision and ordered the dismissal of Gibson's suit against PRS.
The decision also immediately vacated the injunction prohibiting the sale and production of PRS’s Singlecut Guitar. Paul Reed Smith Guitars announced that it would immediately resume production of its Singlecut guitars.

Paul Smith, the founder of PRS, stated "We are delighted that the appellate court affirmed what we and the industry have long known: the PRS Singlecuts are musical instruments of the highest quality that would never be confused with a competitor’s product."

Gibson tried and failed to have the case reheard by all sixteen active Sixth Circuit judges (denied in December 2005) and then by the United States Supreme Court (denied June 2006), which was their last chance to have their original injunction upheld.

In the litigation, Gibson alleged that concert goers in a smoky concert hall might not be able to differentiate a PRS Singlecut from a Gibson Les Paul. The appellate court rejected that trademark theory out-of-hand, emphasizing Gibson’s concession in court arguments that “only an idiot” would confuse the two products at the point of sale.

While no changes to the design of the Singlecut occurred as a result of the lawsuit (given that Gibson lost), some Singlecut owners and sellers have erroneously adopted the term 'pre-lawsuit' to differentiate their Singlecut from others.

Although it appeared PRS discontinued the singlecut models as of January 2010, leaving the 25th anniversary SC 245 to be the only one left, PRS introduced the SC 58 later on in 2010.[/i:3h0c8vb8][/color:3h0c8vb8]

I just hope that Gibson has not made any further copyright exclusions that will enforce and prevent other manufactirers [b:3h0c8vb8]aside PRS[/b:3h0c8vb8] to use the single cut design. Anyway good luck with this new guitar it looks fantastic.
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A factor in that decision was also Gibsons lack of defense of the trademark throughout the years leading up to the PRS case, setting a precedent. A case of too little too late. Fender has been handed the same decision as well, due to lack of defense precedent of the trademarks. If they had kept up the defense of the trademarks from day one, this may have gone differently. Witness the plethora of LP, Tele, and Strat copies and variations.

A good case study for trademark defense regarding guitars is Rickenbacker. With a couple of exceptions, all body shapes, TRC shapes, headstock shapes, PG shapes, pickups and covers, bridges, tailpieces, etc. are trademarked and have been defended legally from day one. See how long an ad for a RIC copy lasts (even a used one) on public media.

From what I can see, this new Dingwall is definitely different enough to not run afoul of any TM infringements. Just as the C1 is different enough from a Tele.
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Sheldon, I also remember you mentioning this guitar is going to be more affordable. Do you have any idea what range that dallar figure might be in? That is, of course, you would like to announce that right now.

Tyler
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Can't do that right now as specs are still changing but it will be a little less than the Combustions.
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":kfxiqt76]Can't do that right now as specs are still changing but it will be a little less than the Combustions.[/quote:kfxiqt76]
:!: :!: :!:
Oh my, my....

Think I need some Beano...
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Just curious if you went any further with the C3? Any first offs available yet? Got some serious GAS for one of these.
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We're doing another run of Combustions first. There may be a prototype available in the mean time though. I'll send you and email.
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Any more info on these becoming available?
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I'm really interested in this too...any plans or can they be ordered as a 'one-off'?
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Since this is going to be more of an economically priced guitar, I doubt it's available as a custom.

Keep in mind, I'm not Sheldon though. :wink:
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Any update yet ? I only play electric guitar occasionnally but I'm not so happy with my Variax anymore. Since I'm such a fan of your basses I'd be interrested in an affordable, no frills guitar with a big D on the headstock.
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