Thursday, 23 August 2007
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I work for a local live sound production company, and at two of my most recent gigs, I've had the pleasure of running sound for bassists using Dingwall basses. This was a cold introduction to Dingwall basses, I had never heard or played one before this. The first band, was a celtic/rock band, where the bass player was playing either an afterburner or Z-series 5 string. I ran the Eq mostly flat, but with a touch of a high and mid cut to make the bass boost more. (Note: I'm one of those guys who will never boost unless I have to, I'd rather cut the other ranges and bring up the input signal level.) I gotta say, that bass boomed. He hung around alot on the B-string, and it cut through the mix like crazy. (I wasn't favoring the bass at all, I brought it back a fair bit, but no matter what it cut through. Probably helps that the rest of the band was mostly in the mid-high range (2 fiddles, (one electric) 1 Guitar, 4 vocals,) When we started teardown, I complimented him on his bass, and being a fellow bass player, he merely handed me his bass and told me to try it. I didn't have it amped, but the feel of the low action and fanned frets is what sold me. I was stupid and didn't ask him the make or model, but remembered seeing Dingwall written on the gig bag, hence how I found this site. Last weekend, I was running sound for the Grambo brothers (I'm not a country fan, so I had no idea who they were, but the way the promoter was rambling they were something... but that's a promoter for you.) The band was a group of guys from Saskatoon that they put together for a few shows, and the bass player had an older deep wine red 4-string Z from the pre-fire days. He estimated it to be around 10 years old, with passive pickups in it. (Does that sound right to you guys?) Needless to say, I spent a fair bit of time keeping one ear-cup on with the bass solo'd in it. It really helps when you have a competent bass player, and this guy was good. I had no worries about leaving him a little higher in the mix. (Unfortunately my digital camera kinda sucks, the hazer and the lights we had on stage washed out the picture pretty badly.) From these two experiences working with them, and the 30seconds of play time on the one, I've decided to upgrade my bass once my home theatre is set up. I'm thinking an ABI - 5string, with a red flame top. I really wish more luthers would make instruments that could match Dingwalls in quality, it would certainly make my job easier.
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It's good to know that everyone else is hearing what we are all hearing too. If and when you get a Dingwall, you will not be disappointed. An Afterburner 5 in amberburst (there are currently no solid or single colours) looks and sounds great.
14 years ago
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[quote="Pesty":22cbgn5n] I'm thinking an ABI - 5string, with a red flame top. .[/quote:22cbgn5n] Welcome. Sounds like the bug bit your educated ears quite hard :-) Your baby is available in stock at basscentral.com......maybe it's the home theatre that oughtta wait :twisted:
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Yeah, I've seen it there. Trust me, it's tempting to max out the card, but I'm one of those people that won't buy something on credit unless I already have the cash for it. I play in my church a lot, and during the summer months we've been doing an outdoor accoustic "unplugged" church service, so I've moved back to guitar for a while. I started on guitar and have moved to primarily bass, (but I still use guitar for writing.) Still gotta figure out what to do for an amp though, I'm currently playing all my electrics and my bass through a '72 Fender Bluesman Jr.
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I have a herd of 40+ high end basses and believe me that nothing beats a Dingwall (PS I use the bass to write!!!! how's that for an ex- Paul Gilbert-Vai apprentice?) No real need to get a big watt amp. Just something that will get you through the small to mid gigs. The rest is taken care of from the PA. So maybe a good DI is the first in line. The Dingwalls sound good in any amp really (the better the amp the better the result though). I love recording and performing with the Avalon U5
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[quote="fullrangebass":1tue2uho]I have a herd of 40+ high end basses and believe me that nothing beats a Dingwall (PS I use the bass to write!!!! how's that for an ex- Paul Gilbert-Vai apprentice?) No real need to get a big watt amp. Just something that will get you through the small to mid gigs. The rest is taken care of from the PA. So maybe a good DI is the first in line. The Dingwalls sound good in any amp really (the better the amp the better the result though). I love recording and performing with the Avalon U5[/quote:1tue2uho] I had a collection that was nothing compared to FRB's, but still formidable - basses including a Lakland 55-94, EBMM Stingray 5, and a Fender Roscoe Beck V. I sold them all, knowing that none of them compare to my ABII. On amps, it sounds like you like the B-string a lot. Being a sound guy, I'm sure you're aware that this requires more headroom. I use an SWR SM-400S (500 watts at 4 ohms) and it's plenty. I really couldn't ask for anything more, because it gives me an awesome preamp and more than enough power. The point about the DI is interesting. I bought a Radial Bassbone especially for this purpose. I get tons of compliments from sound guys no matter what kind of signal I send them.
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I've used Radial DI's in the past, and that bassbone does look interesting. I'll have to see if we still have a dealership with them. (The company I work for also does sales for quite a few different sound gear companys, getting stuff at cost is pretty sweet!) I do want to have a lot of head room with my rig. I have had the misfortune of blowing a few bass bins,* but every time we've had a speaker blow, it was on an amp that was sitting on the edge of clipping out. Even if the speaker was rated for more, it's always seemed to me that it's the amp that does the damage. *One was on purpose... it was an old one we wanted to get rid of... but wasn't worth selling. It was an old 18" it's pair was dropped off of a trailer deck and smashed, and they were first on the list to get replaced anyways.
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I have had more than one sound man mention how amazing my Dingwalls sound and how easy they were to mix. I was impressed by their comments because I've known several sound guys through the years and, well, they tend not to gush over such things, or anything at all, for that matter :wink: . That's a nice endorsement you gave, Pesty. Spread the word :) Mark
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Hey guys its been a while, but I have been limiting my time here to prevent GAS. Graduation is only months away now, and I am thinking a Super J will make a nice present to myself - unless any of you guys would like to get me something :wink: . Anyway, I spent a few days in the studio last week working on some demos for our new CD. I was all excited, because I thought I was going to get to play through some vintage Ampeg gear the guy had listed on his site. When I walked in, he handed me a cable hooked to a direct box. I was bummed, but I knew a lot of engineers record bass direct. I was running late, and the guys were ready to go, so I didn't even have time to make sure my bass was in tune, let alone play with any EQ. The result, fantastic! During our first break after a few takes, he just went on about my bass and how well it cut through. I had a slight bass boost on the aguilar pre and my strings are getting close to a year old(not my prefernce, just broke right now). He said it sounded like I was running through an old SVT. The sound was huge. During some retakes, he really liked the popular bridge PU with a slight bass boost, and so we re-recorded both the demos with that setting. This was my first real studio experience. Live, I have always gotten complements from sound techs and other bassists on the sound of my Dingwall. It is a great conversation piece too. 4 years and counting. This bass never lets me down.
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If I can, I usually to take both a direct out (either from a head or a DI,) and blend it together with a mic on the cabinet.
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[quote="Pesty":a6gcseu5]If I can, I usually to take both a direct out (either from a head or a DI,) and blend it together with a mic on the cabinet.[/quote:a6gcseu5] That is how I had planned to do it, but it worked out well this way. When our tracks are a little more polished, I will post them or a link to the myspace page if we post them there.
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[quote="Zac Hammons":27qp0u9r] I am thinking a Super J will make a nice present to myself - unless any of you guys would like to get me something :wink: . [/quote:27qp0u9r] Welcome back. I'm sure you've earned it. Will it be SJ4 or SJ5?
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[quote="lomo":1dfx9dcy][quote="Zac Hammons":1dfx9dcy] I am thinking a Super J will make a nice present to myself - unless any of you guys would like to get me something :wink: . [/quote:1dfx9dcy] Welcome back. I'm sure you've earned it. Will it be SJ4 or SJ5?[/quote:1dfx9dcy] Hey Morris, Now that the string spacing has been set, I am tempted go for the SJ5. Since you will probly getting one of the first ones, I will be anxious to read your impressions :) . The thing is, It will be hard to beat the depth and definition of my AB1 for low B and general fingerstyle work. I had mainly planned on getting the SJ4 for a funk/slap bass, and I have been waiting on the bass to go through a few refinements before I lay down that kind of cash. With the passive trebble, new battery cover, and new Mach II pu'p, it should be complete! In time I may just get both. But at first I may let the 5 go through some evolution and go with the 4. We'll see.
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