Wednesday, 28 November 2007
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After so much DAS, it's time to buy something new. I can't get rid of my ABII - it will never leave the fold. I'm looking to add some more versatility to my small herd. I want an bright, aggressive five and a more mellow, detailed-sounding six. What I'd like to do is buy a new ABI and throw the OBP-3 in there. So, here's what I would have: ABII-6 Audere 5ZB preamp - 9V Mahogany Body - Bubinga Top, Bubinga Neck, Wenge FB eventually - FD-3/Mach II ABI-5 Aguilar OBP-3 preamp - 9V Maple Body - Flame Top, Maple Neck, Wenge FB eventually - FD-1 Anyway, what I'm trying to figure out is how different these basses will sound. I'm pretty set on doing it, but let me know what you all think.
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The "regular" ABIs are pretty damn good the way they are. I would just keep it as is before changing things up. A little time with one might change your mind about going with mods.
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[quote="Smallmouth_Bass":2e7c4n2s]The "regular" ABIs are pretty damn good the way they are. I would just keep it as is before changing things up. A little time with one might change your mind about going with mods.[/quote:2e7c4n2s] +1 Mark
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Judging from my ABs I would not touch anything really
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I'm certainly not saying there's anything wrong with ANY Dingwall. All I'm saying is that I want the added versatility and aggressiveness of an OBP-3 in an ABI. Plus, it will be a free upgrade because the OBP-3 will just sit around otherwise. Which would you take, given no price difference? Passive ABI or OBP-3 ABI?
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[quote="nastyn8c":1po57fnn]Which would you take, given no price difference? Passive ABI or OBP-3 ABI?[/quote:1po57fnn] Well, the ABI has that certain passive "thing", when I compare it to my active Dingwalls, which can be overbearing and, like an untamed elephant, hard to control, at times anyway. It seems like I'm always having to rein them in some. I have always liked having passive basses available and I appreciate the ABI for it's unusual combination of beautiful simplicity of design coupled with amazing clarity and tone. I have never heard another passive bass approach the qualities of tone my ABI has. It would seem a shame to lose that. It is a perfect design as is, IMO. I would definitely give it a chance as Dr. Wood intended it to be before I messed with it. Mark
14 years ago
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I don't know if you live anywhere near Washington DC, but Jong at Jive Sound has a few AB-1.5's which are AB-I's with the active pre-amp of the AB-II in them. You could make an appointment and swing by to try one out - I did.
14 years ago
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Problem: The whole reason I'm going for the ABI is so I can have a bass that's extremely aggressive. I [i:2rujvzvi]want[/i:2rujvzvi] something that's hard to rein in. I want my ABII to go more towards the passive, open sound. That's why I'm replacing the OBP-3 with the Audere pre. Right now, I have a relatively aggressive ABII-6. Ideally, my sixer should sound open and woody, with a clear top end - the six is for more melodic stuff. My fiver should be more aggressive - it's only for heavy stuff. I was really hoping for support, but I guess I was looking in the wrong place for support in butchering such beautiful work! :P
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And I guess I should rephrase my question: Which would you take, given no price difference, [u:2100cul7]and that you're looking for something aggressive[/u:2100cul7]? Passive ABI or OBP-3 ABI? By the way, Mark, I'm not trying to discredit you in any sense. In fact, your point made quite an impact on me. Problem is, I just can't afford to go to a ABI-6 (passive) and ABII-5 (OBP-3) right now. Maybe someday, when I'm the next fullie, but not right now. :cry:
14 years ago
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Putting an active pre in an ABI-5 is going to be a very tight fit. The pre and the batteries have to go in the cavity. A Dingwall with the tone knob wide open can be very aggressive yet pretty clanky. Sounds like what you want is a MachII in the bridge position. If that dosen't work it sounds like you want an SR5 for the ultimate warm aggressive growl.
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[quote="Funkshwey":1li0f5v1]Putting an active pre in an ABI-5 is going to be a very tight fit. The pre and the batteries have to go in the cavity.[/quote:1li0f5v1] I'm planning on no bluEQube and only one 9V, unless I strike a deal for an AB-1.5 [quote="Funkshwey":1li0f5v1]Sounds like what you want is a MachII in the bridge position.[/quote:1li0f5v1] I'm planning on that for my ABII, and trying to score a 5-string FD-1 pair for the AB-1. [quote="Funkshwey":1li0f5v1]If that dosen't work it sounds like you want an SR5 for the ultimate warm aggressive growl.[/quote:1li0f5v1] If I wasn't so in love with Sheldon's work, I would have beat you to that conclusion. Honestly, that's what I want tone-wise in a DW package, but I can't afford a Z2 at the moment. I think the FD-1 and OBP-3 would add some nice sizzle.
14 years ago
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Dare I ask. what sort of sizzle are you after? If the AB I is really aggressive and you want to add another dimension to the sound, you may add the Villex PRTB. I have done so on my Zebra and the results are super great. The Zebra sound is by far more aggressive than the Z1 (blackburst) but utilizing the Villex PRTB the sound thickens up without loosing the growl.
14 years ago
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[quote="nastyn8c":2d6xmv9f]By the way, Mark, I'm not trying to discredit you in any sense.[/quote:2d6xmv9f] Say what :?: No problem, bro. Mark
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[quote="fullrangebass":2c5uada8]Dare I ask. what sort of sizzle are you after? If the AB I is really aggressive and you want to add another dimension to the sound, you may add the Villex PRTB. I have done so on my Zebra and the results are super great. The Zebra sound is by far more aggressive than the Z1 (blackburst) but utilizing the Villex PRTB the sound thickens up without loosing the growl.[/quote:2c5uada8] I'm trying to add a little aggressiveness, keep somewhat true to Sheldon's design, and do it for free. That's where the OBP-3 comes in. After I replace it with the Audere, it will just sit in a drawer, or it could be used in my new ABI. Speaking of which....
14 years ago
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nastyn8c, So from what I'm reading, your ABII came with an OPB-3? The stock preamp is an OBP-1. I can't comment on the OBP-3, at least until Sheldon finishes my Z1, but when I bought my ABII (with OBP-1) at Jive Sound, I did a comparison between that bass and an ABI (Max Vintage's lovely bass). I've mentioned before in this forum that I think the difference in body and neck woods yield very significant differences in sound. The ABI was much brighter sounding. Probably the only bass that I've ever played where I would actually use the passive treble cut on a regular basis. The ABII had a warmer sound, with sort of a mid-range bark - the word "burp" also comes to mind. I don't know which one would relate to the "aggressive" sound that you are seeking, but the difference in sound between the ABI and ABII could easily justify ownership of both models - for those of us that require such justification. I would make sure that if you swapped out electronics on an ABI that you maintain some sort of treble cut - either active or passive. Good luck.
14 years ago
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I just made my deposit on my new ABI!
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14 years ago
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[quote="amodeo@mitre.org":yphiyey4]So from what I'm reading, your ABII came with an OPB-3? The stock preamp is an OBP-1.[/quote:yphiyey4] Actually, I am the second owner. It was built passive, and the original owner shipped it to Sheldon and had it retrofitted with battery compartment and OBP-3. [quote="amodeo@mitre.org":yphiyey4]I can't comment on the OBP-3, at least until Sheldon finishes my Z1, but when I bought my ABII (with OBP-1) at Jive Sound, I did a comparison between that bass and an ABI (Max Vintage's lovely bass). I've mentioned before in this forum that I think the difference in body and neck woods yield very significant differences in sound. The ABI was much brighter sounding. Probably the only bass that I've ever played where I would actually use the passive treble cut on a regular basis. The ABII had a warmer sound, with sort of a mid-range bark - the word "burp" also comes to mind. I don't know which one would relate to the "aggressive" sound that you are seeking, but the difference in sound between the ABI and ABII could easily justify ownership of both models - for those of us that require such justification. I would make sure that if you swapped out electronics on an ABI that you maintain some sort of treble cut - either active or passive.[/quote:yphiyey4] Good points. Are you certain the pickups were the same? I'm planning on dropping FD-3's in my AB-II and FD-1's in my AB-I. I think that will help accentuate the differences that I'm looking for. Now that I'm thinking about it, though, I think those pickup changes will make the tones more similar. :roll:
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So we have active ABIs and passive ABIIs. This is getting too confusing. :D My ABII has FD3s and I am pretty sure that the ABI had FD-3s as well. They were both at Jive Sound and I think they had been built at approximately the same time, give or take. This was about 2 years ago, after the FD-1s were phased out and well before the existence of any Mach IIs. One more point about the Aguilar preamps. My OBP-1 was pretty neutral sounding when the bass and treble boost controls were rolled off completely. That is, toggling between passive and active with no boost yielded very similar sounds. So if the OBP-3 acts the same way, I think that there would be no downside to installing it. Now I say "was", because I swapped out the OBP-1 for a John East preamp, because I really wanted a mid-boost. The OBP-3, with its mid control, would have been an option as well, and I am looking forward to checking this preamp out on my upcoming Z.
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