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Hey guys!! I got myself a matte black Combustion just over 2 months ago and I'd say its fantastic!!! But just recently I noticed that my frets are tarnishing... as in brown stuffs are appearing on my frets and I can't seem to rub it off... As time goes by, more and more brown stuffs start to appear on other frets... This has never happened to me before on my other basses that I've owned... Are there any steps I should take to take care of the frets?
11 years ago
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I too own a combustion and didn't notice this. Do you suspect it to be rust (spelling?) ?
11 years ago
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Huh, I got a combustion a while ago (November I think?) and I havn't noticed this. If you could post pictures the guys her might be of more help. Welcome to the forum, both of you!
11 years ago
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Does this happen to all the frets? Have you applied anything to the fretboard? Cleaning liquids or something? Have you cleaned them with a wet/moist rag?
11 years ago
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Regarding frets, I must say that I love these small frets, but I find the increasing "fretwear" a little concerning, I don't remember seeing any other basses's fret wear so soon. Is it just my impression or does anyone feel the same?
11 years ago
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[quote="tomas_almeida":nxhrj4av]Regarding frets, I must say that I love these small frets, but I find the increasing "fretwear" a little concerning, I don't remember seeing any other basses's fret wear so soon. Is it just my impression or does anyone feel the same?[/quote:nxhrj4av] So you actually have low spots or grooves worn into in the frets, or just lines on the fret from the string windings? Mark
11 years ago
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[quote="TheGrandEnigma":1lly3uhs] If you could post pictures the guys her might be of more help.[/quote:1lly3uhs] Yes, this is pointless without a good quality close-up.
11 years ago
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[quote="lowphatbass":1pbgugyj][quote="TheGrandEnigma":1pbgugyj] If you could post pictures the guys her might be of more help.[/quote:1pbgugyj] Yes, this is pointless without a good quality close-up.[/quote:1pbgugyj] Right. I don't see how the frets could possibly be worn. It takes years, not months, to "wear" frets. If you had gigged 7 nights a week since you got the bass you still wouldn't see any appreciable wear. I'll bet you're seeing marks from the string windings. Fanned frets are at an angle to the string windings, but basically parallel to the windings on normal basses. The marks from the windings are much more noticeable on a fanned fret bass. I noticed this on my first Dingwall, but Sheldon assured me there was nothing to worry about. Mark
11 years ago
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[quote="Bocete":2m2m9vn0]Does this happen to all the frets? Have you applied anything to the fretboard? Cleaning liquids or something? Have you cleaned them with a wet/moist rag?[/quote:2m2m9vn0] It seems to be appearing on other frets as well... No I have not applied anything to the fretboard.. No cleaning liquids or anything... I have not cleaned them with wet/moist rag before... I only use a dry maestro cloth to wipe my dingwall strings and fretboard each time i play... it has not touched any chemicals before... Oh yeah... i can see some lines on my frets made by the strings.. it's perfectly fine? Sorry for the blur images... Don't have a good camera here...
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11 years ago
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Regarding the oxidization on the frets. A rub with a Flitz cloth will clean it up. You can use 0000 steel wool too, but it's difficult to keep the steel wool dust from sticking to the pickups without taking the neck off. A little paste wax rubbed on and then buffed off will keep them looking shiny longer. Regarding the fret wear. This is a common complaint from new owners. As Mark mentioned above. The fret wear looks WAY more noticeable on the diagonal frets when in fact it's no worse than if the frets were parallel.
11 years ago
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Is there anyway to prevent the oxidation?
11 years ago
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If I'm not wrong, the Flitz cloth is a microfiber cloth... Does planetwaves microfiber cloth compare to Flitz cloth?
11 years ago
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[quote="guitarded":3gqsy7fv][quote="tomas_almeida":3gqsy7fv]Regarding frets, I must say that I love these small frets, but I find the increasing "fretwear" a little concerning, I don't remember seeing any other basses's fret wear so soon. Is it just my impression or does anyone feel the same?[/quote:3gqsy7fv] So you actually have low spots or grooves worn into in the frets, or just lines on the fret from the string windings? Mark[/quote:3gqsy7fv] Just lines for now, but they are very pronounced, and that leads me to think that there will be low spots in no time. I've only had the bass for less than a week. However, if that happens, I can have a luthier put SS banjo frets in it. That way there wouldn't be anymore fretwear problems. [quote="guitarded":3gqsy7fv] Right. I don't see how the frets could possibly be worn. It takes years, not months, to "wear" frets. If you had gigged 7 nights a week since you got the bass you still wouldn't see any appreciable wear. I'll bet you're seeing marks from the string windings. Fanned frets are at an angle to the string windings, but basically parallel to the windings on normal basses. The marks from the windings are much more noticeable on a fanned fret bass. I noticed this on my first Dingwall, but Sheldon assured me there was nothing to worry about. Mark[/quote:3gqsy7fv] However if that's the case, I think that my concerns are the same you had. Glad there's no problem then. [quote="Sheldon Dingwall":3gqsy7fv]Regarding the oxidization on the frets. A rub with a Flitz cloth will clean it up. You can use 0000 steel wool too, but it's difficult to keep the steel wool dust from sticking to the pickups without taking the neck off. A little paste wax rubbed on and then buffed off will keep them looking shiny longer. Regarding the fret wear. This is a common complaint from new owners. As Mark mentioned above. The fret wear looks WAY more noticeable on the diagonal frets when in fact it's no worse than if the frets were parallel.[/quote:3gqsy7fv] And Sheldon confirms. Great!
11 years ago
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[quote="Sheldon Dingwall":3tukte0r]Regarding the oxidization on the frets. A rub with a Flitz cloth will clean it up. You can use 0000 steel wool too, but it's difficult to keep the steel wool dust from sticking to the pickups without taking the neck off. A little paste wax rubbed on and then buffed off will keep them looking shiny longer.[/quote:3tukte0r] You can use Scotchbrite pads to avoid the hassles associated with steel wool. I would, however, use a well-worn one to help minimize abrasion and get a finer finish. Mark
11 years ago
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I've played my two Dingwalls extensively now since I first bought in 2005. I have a medium to sometimes heavy left hand action. In the past (when I had more time on my hands) I played sometimes 4-6 hours a day 5-7 days a week. Now its less, but I've not appreciably worn the frets on either bass to the point of even needing a re-leveling.
11 years ago
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It doesn't look like the Flitz product I was refering to is made anymore. Sorry for the bum-steer. White Scotchbrite doesn't have any abrasive in it so you could try that on the frets and it won't hurt anything.
11 years ago
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[quote="tomas_almeida":30fhjkju][quote="guitarded":30fhjkju][quote="tomas_almeida":30fhjkju]Regarding frets, I must say that I love these small frets, but I find the increasing "fretwear" a little concerning, I don't remember seeing any other basses's fret wear so soon. Is it just my impression or does anyone feel the same?[/quote:30fhjkju] So you actually have low spots or grooves worn into in the frets, or just lines on the fret from the string windings? Mark[/quote:30fhjkju] Just lines for now, but they are very pronounced, and that leads me to think that there will be low spots in no time. I've only had the bass for less than a week. However, if that happens, I can have a luthier put SS banjo frets in it. That way there wouldn't be anymore fretwear problems. [quote="guitarded":30fhjkju] Right. I don't see how the frets could possibly be worn. It takes years, not months, to "wear" frets. If you had gigged 7 nights a week since you got the bass you still wouldn't see any appreciable wear. I'll bet you're seeing marks from the string windings. Fanned frets are at an angle to the string windings, but basically parallel to the windings on normal basses. The marks from the windings are much more noticeable on a fanned fret bass. I noticed this on my first Dingwall, but Sheldon assured me there was nothing to worry about. Mark[/quote:30fhjkju] However if that's the case, I think that my concerns are the same you had. Glad there's no problem then. [quote="Sheldon Dingwall":30fhjkju]Regarding the oxidization on the frets. A rub with a Flitz cloth will clean it up. You can use 0000 steel wool too, but it's difficult to keep the steel wool dust from sticking to the pickups without taking the neck off. A little paste wax rubbed on and then buffed off will keep them looking shiny longer. Regarding the fret wear. This is a common complaint from new owners. As Mark mentioned above. The fret wear looks WAY more noticeable on the diagonal frets when in fact it's no worse than if the frets were parallel.[/quote:30fhjkju] And Sheldon confirms. Great![/quote:30fhjkju] Yep, no problem, I found the same thing here when I got my Dingwall last November. I don't worry about it.
11 years ago
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Another qns.... if I were to clean up my frets... I'd use a 0000 fine steel wool to rub the frets and masking tape up the pups... then when I'm gonna polish my frets, I use kiwi neutral and have to tape up my fretboard?
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[quote="KiteXlite":33k7spc8]Another qns.... if I were to clean up my frets... I'd use a 0000 fine steel wool to rub the frets and masking tape up the pups... then when I'm gonna polish my frets, I use kiwi neutral and have to tape up my fretboard?[/quote:33k7spc8] We just tested white scotchbrite. I recommend that as it's cleaner and safer. Rub the scotchbrite lengthwise along the fretboard. Use as much pressure as necessary to clean the fret. Once they are shiny, the paste wax helps to protect them from oxydization. It doesn't make them any shinier. If you're using it extremely sparingly, there's no need to tape off the fingerboard.
11 years ago
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[quote="KiteXlite":9dj0ief3]Another qns.... if I were to clean up my frets... I'd use a 0000 fine steel wool to rub the frets and masking tape up the pups... then when I'm gonna polish my frets, I use kiwi neutral and have to tape up my fretboard?[/quote:9dj0ief3] I had the frets on my Cbass unsprouted, crowned, and dressed and it made a big difference. I've never seen another bass that didn't need that when new, except for my more expensive Dingwalls. The fretwork was perfect on those right out of the case. Mark
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[quote:399k4ylt]I had the frets on my Cbass unsprouted, crowned, and dressed and it made a big difference.[/quote:399k4ylt] Dressed? Put little t-shirts on them? Maybe since they were crowned they were purple robes? :wink: Can you explain further since I'm a newbie and don't get it? I imagine one of those takes off the rough outside edge.
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