Monday, 26 January 2009
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Hello, everybody. I'm about to re-cab and would like some quick opinions from other forum members. I need a light-weight 4-10, but I have also considered other configurations. There are no dealers nearby for the cabs I've been looking at, reading about, and going back to: [b:8yvyqt15]Epifani UL series Schroeder Light cabs [/b:8yvyqt15] Your input is valued. Thanks, Mark
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[quote="knuckle_head":58whqtbc]Thanks for the welcome. :) I've been talking way too big to Sheldon for way too long - I hope I can find a way to live up to the hype. I'm the last person he needs to help him with basses. ....no, really. :D[/quote:58whqtbc] 's just a thought. Discuss amongst ya'selves...I'm getting verklempt. :)
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[quote="davio":22zw5281]Good to see you around these parts, Skip! Any plans for some insane-o-crazy collaboration with Sheldon for an 8va down Dingwall? :twisted: :lol: ...and could you make it a Torzal while you're at it? :roll:[/quote:22zw5281] Thanks for the welcome. :) I've been talking way too big to Sheldon for way too long - I hope I can find a way to live up to the hype. I'm the last person he needs to help him with basses. ....no, really. :D
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Good to see you around these parts, Skip! Any plans for some insane-o-crazy collaboration with Sheldon for an 8va down Dingwall? :twisted: :lol: ...and could you make it a Torzal while you're at it? :roll:
12 years ago
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If I may suggest; consider a pair of Bag Ends. The D10B-D and the D10BX-D will give you the highs that the quad 10 will but will give you more low end extension. It becomes modular should you not need both cabs as well. And there is always the Infra to put underneath when you're ready for F#. ;) Edit; oops, too late. Hope you're enjoying your cabs!
12 years ago
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[quote="guitarded":1e35vuam]You'd ask for help and they would say "No". [/quote:1e35vuam] Wow, that's a bunch of BS. I don't think I've ever experienced that attitude from fellow band mates.
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No one has suggested Eden yet so I'll give my biased opinion. :) I use a d210xst 4-ohm cab (2-10s, rated 500w, tuned to 30hz) paired with a wt550 head. I ordered this setup having not heard it, only based on Internet hearsay...it has not disappointed me yet. I've not heard a single bad comment about this amp or my tone. Other players in my church have used it and concur. I went from a 100lb Ampeg 410 to this lighter, more low end, smaller cab. It really speaks clearly even with the low B (drop low A) on my ABII-5. I'm glad I don't need to shop for a rig anymore! I know Eden the company has received some flak lately especially with David N leaving, but I've never had a problem in 4 years of using this rig with various basses (Stingray5, Sterling4, Lakland 55-02, Warwick, Yamaha, Ibanez, Rickenbacker, and Dingwall). The head was even dropped once and it kept on ticking. PS....I've been absent from the forum a long while, lots of real life stuff been going on. It's cool to see the regulars still here (FRB, smallmouth, etc)! I'm still dreaming of my SJ5!
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[quote="BurningSkies":2soa52np]Very fortunate. Its especially hard to get anyone to help AFTER the show It's also why I run with two smaller cabs and a small head. I've also been the one saddled with PA duty for gigs that we need to provide...so you can triple my load times! What I'd really love is having someone in the band who would take interest in knowing how to set up a simple PA and how to run it. The guitarist I play with feigns ignorance so he can avoid having anything to do with it. L.A.Z.Y.[/quote:2soa52np] i've only run into this problem with one member of one band i was in. a singer that wouldn't help carry any gear. she didn't last long. there is no excuse for not helping your fellow band members(and friends hopefully) carry gear unless you have a back problem or something. anything else is basically disrespect in my eyes.
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Very fortunate. Its especially hard to get anyone to help AFTER the show It's also why I run with two smaller cabs and a small head. I've also been the one saddled with PA duty for gigs that we need to provide...so you can triple my load times! What I'd really love is having someone in the band who would take interest in knowing how to set up a simple PA and how to run it. The guitarist I play with feigns ignorance so he can avoid having anything to do with it. L.A.Z.Y.
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my current rig is a peavey 1x18cab sitting under an ampeg 8x10. i have a mesa bass 400+ driving the 18 and an ampeg svt vri driving the ampeg 8x10. i've played mesa boogie road ready 2x15 cabs that pushed a lot of air and sounded really good. i'd give it a 15 and 4x10s and get the best of both worlds. both ampeg in my opinion.
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[quote="guitarded":1hf0hxn4]Nice rig. That's dedication to the craft having to haul a half-ton PJB stack to the gig. I've been looking to lighten my load the past few years. I actually played in a band for a short time where the other guys wouldn't help each other load. You'd ask for help and they would say "No". We played a lot at a place where you couldn't get your car close to the outside stage, only bikes were allowed. Carrying a Hartke 410 XL alone (nearly 90lbs) a few hundred feet across a dirt and gravel parking lot broke my spirit and started me on the quest for a lighter rig (and another band!). Mark[/quote:1hf0hxn4] I'd say your experience is typical. I used to have to "do it all" book the gigs, set up the pa, amps, etc. When it was over I had to tear it all down by myself load it up and unload it in my basement. This is the first band I have ever been in where no one leaves until the last cord is rolled and everything is on the truck, including the stage swept. This is all done without asking, everyone just does it. This is a great bunch of guys, I'm fortunate to be among them.
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Nice rig. That's dedication to the craft having to haul a half-ton PJB stack to the gig. I've been looking to lighten my load the past few years. I actually played in a band for a short time where the other guys wouldn't help each other load. You'd ask for help and they would say "No". We played a lot at a place where you couldn't get your car close to the outside stage, only bikes were allowed. Carrying a Hartke 410 XL alone (nearly 90lbs) a few hundred feet across a dirt and gravel parking lot broke my spirit and started me on the quest for a lighter rig (and another band!). Mark
12 years ago
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I can't help thinking of Daleks (Doctor Who) everytime I see those cabinets, hehehe. EG
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[quote="Dragonlord":2lkm778c]If my drummer was as muscular as yours, I wouldn't mind the weight either. Enjoy the new rig![/quote:2lkm778c] Yeah, he's nice to have around to make sure you get paid, if trouble starts, etc. Really one of the nicest guys I've ever met, I don't think he'd hurt a fly. (unless it really made him mad) The rig DOES weigh a ton, I do have a technique down for getting it in and out of my vehicle and house, but if the gig has stairs (as this one did) help is absolutely necessary.
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[quote="Dragonlord":2astlbz1]If my drummer was as muscular as yours, I wouldn't mind the weight either. Enjoy the new rig![/quote:2astlbz1] :D No joke! Those speaker cables are probably a trip to the car all by themselves! Congrats on the purchase! I've played a few PJB products and was impressed but it wasn't my thing. Looks pretty impressive in this large format, though. :)
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[quote="John H.":hbqiq8pf]Hi Mark, Wasn't it you that had the Flite 4x10? Maybe I'm remembering that wrong. If so, what is it you're looking for in a new cab that the Flite doesn't offer. John[/quote:hbqiq8pf] Yep. It turns out the styrofoam and wood sandwich construction of the cabinet did not hold up for me. The cab started buzzing and squeaking where the glue failed between the styrofoam and wood. It sounded like a '65 Fiat with a too-loud subwoofer in the trunk. Horrible. I liked the sound of the cab while it lasted, but the material couldn't take the strain, I guess. Patrick- yes, I'm looking at the Epifani 610 as a possibility. Mark
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Well, I used to have a Schroeder 1210R and a Mini12R. As already said, very compact and very loud, but very middy. I liked the sound in the mix, not solo, but I'm much happier with my Glockenkland 212 ("Double"). It's not heavy, but it's not featherweight either. From the neo lightweight market, I'd really like to try the Bergantino AE line. BTW, a note on Schroeders: The newer ones are supposed to be more even sounding, and the bigger boxes (for example 410) were supposed to be more even sounding all along. The extreme mid frequencies are said to be a characteristic of the small boxes (Mini12, 1210, 1212 etc). And Jorg Schroeder is absolutely the best in the business as far as customer care goes, I can't praise the man enough. Goes out of his way to make sure you're happy.
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Hi Mark, Wasn't it you that had the Flite 4x10? Maybe I'm remembering that wrong. If so, what is it you're looking for in a new cab that the Flite doesn't offer. John
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Mark-- I take it you scoped out all the NAMM threads over at Talkbass? it looked like a number of companies are releasing a bunch of new gear. I can only give you my impression of the schroeder gear you list above. While it was small and lightweight, i personally didn't dig the tone. yes the box could handle mucho wattage and got loud as heck, to my ears is was very middy, and not so much low mid or low. People love those cabs esp for the price, but they didn't work for me. I ended up with accugroove tri 210s and don't hate me, an old hartke 4X10. I still think the aluminum cones sound great, and yes they sound middy as well, but very different - warm, punchy and tight. You know the ole saying about picking amps and cabs--- well I'll just say-- its very personnal
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Have an Epifani UL2 6x10". Amazing. Lighter than it looks. REALLY LIGHT. Great tone. I put an old SVT or an Eden WT800. Really nice. luck on you
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How about a BAG END Q10-BXD? They're not too heavy and sound great, I used to have one before I switched to smaller cabs. Now I'm using EBS Neo-cabs(1x12"), and they're great, shouldn't be any difference in sound and quality with their 4x10.. :)
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