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Hello, everybody. I'm about to re-cab and would like some quick opinions from other forum members. I need a light-weight 4-10, but I have also considered other configurations. There are no dealers nearby for the cabs I've been looking at, reading about, and going back to:

[b:8yvyqt15]Epifani UL series

Schroeder Light cabs [/b:8yvyqt15]

Your input is valued.

Thanks,

Mark
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How about a BAG END Q10-BXD? They're not too heavy and sound great, I used to have one before I switched to smaller cabs. Now I'm using EBS Neo-cabs(1x12"), and they're great, shouldn't be any difference in sound and quality with their 4x10.. :)
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Have an Epifani UL2 6x10".
Amazing. Lighter than it looks. REALLY LIGHT.
Great tone.
I put an old SVT or an Eden WT800. Really nice.
luck on you
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Mark--
I take it you scoped out all the NAMM threads over at Talkbass? it looked like a number of companies are releasing a bunch of new gear.

I can only give you my impression of the schroeder gear you list above. While it was small and lightweight, i personally didn't dig the tone. yes the box could handle mucho wattage and got loud as heck, to my ears is was very middy, and not so much low mid or low. People love those cabs esp for the price, but they didn't work for me.

I ended up with accugroove tri 210s and don't hate me, an old hartke 4X10. I still think the aluminum cones sound great, and yes they sound middy as well, but very different - warm, punchy and tight.

You know the ole saying about picking amps and cabs--- well I'll just say-- its very personnal
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Hi Mark,

Wasn't it you that had the Flite 4x10? Maybe I'm remembering that wrong. If so, what is it you're looking for in a new cab that the Flite doesn't offer.

John
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Well, I used to have a Schroeder 1210R and a Mini12R. As already said, very compact and very loud, but very middy. I liked the sound in the mix, not solo, but I'm much happier with my Glockenkland 212 ("Double"). It's not heavy, but it's not featherweight either. From the neo lightweight market, I'd really like to try the Bergantino AE line. BTW, a note on Schroeders: The newer ones are supposed to be more even sounding, and the bigger boxes (for example 410) were supposed to be more even sounding all along. The extreme mid frequencies are said to be a characteristic of the small boxes (Mini12, 1210, 1212 etc). And Jorg Schroeder is absolutely the best in the business as far as customer care goes, I can't praise the man enough. Goes out of his way to make sure you're happy.
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[quote="John H.":hbqiq8pf]Hi Mark,

Wasn't it you that had the Flite 4x10? Maybe I'm remembering that wrong. If so, what is it you're looking for in a new cab that the Flite doesn't offer.

John[/quote:hbqiq8pf]

Yep. It turns out the styrofoam and wood sandwich construction of the cabinet did not hold up for me. The cab started buzzing and squeaking where the glue failed between the styrofoam and wood. It sounded like a '65 Fiat with a too-loud subwoofer in the trunk. Horrible. I liked the sound of the cab while it lasted, but the material couldn't take the strain, I guess.


Patrick- yes, I'm looking at the Epifani 610 as a possibility.

Mark
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[quote="FrankM":2alzi9em]I ended up with accugroove tri 210s and don't hate me, an old hartke 4X10. I still think the aluminum cones sound great, and yes they sound middy as well, but very different - warm, punchy and tight.

You know the ole saying about picking amps and cabs--- well I'll just say-- its very personnal[/quote:2alzi9em]

Hi, Frank. No, I don't hate you! I loved my Hartke XL and it served me well for years, but it was too heavy.

Mark
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Check out the EA(Euphonic Audio) 4x10. I have a nL210 and a cxl112 with an iAmp800 with my P.A. It sounds fantastic. Besides Lee Sklar uses EA gear so it must be good "right".
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I've read that Mark Wright at AccuGroove is putting out a very limited run of combos with several cab models and the new Synergy head. The Tri115L combo would be high on my list if I were looking for something like that. It would run all over most 410s and the Synergy is just going to be rackmounted so you can swap it out for a different 2U head if you want.

Or you could just do the cab. Quite a sweet piece of work.
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Hi Mark

Try a markbass 410HF or 410HR, or even a 210HF they are very light, extremely well made, have a great tone and a wider frequency response than most other units. Check out www.markbass.it for a list of endorsers and product.

Recently I tried the 210HF and was blown away so I switched out my 410HR for the 210HF and find this is a great unit as it is small, light, but very capable so I now have 3 rigs; small (1x 210HF) medium (1x410HF) and large (1x210HF +1x410HF) :twisted:
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I don't have a lot of experience with many different cabs. I have a 2x10 and a 2X12 Avatar cab and I like the sound

They are light, well made and relatively inexpensive. They make a model called the B410 Neo. Check it out at:

http://www.steamcomusic.com/avatar/index.html
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I own EA stuff, but Markbass gets my vote for a 2x10" cab (the combo is even better)
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Acme Low B-4 might be slightly heavier than those, but truly kicks ass, which is great in Dingwall land! :)

EG
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Thanks for all the input everyone. I had narrowed my choices to Mark Bass, EA, and Epifani. With some input from the guys at BassNW, I finally decided on the Epifani UL2-410. BTW, BassNW beat everybody's price- $10 less than Musician's Friend wanted for the cab, and that includes shipping.

Mark
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Wow! 57 lbs for 4 10s is quite impressive. I used to have a 2 x 10" cab that weighed more than that!
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Yes, epifani cabs are ridiculously light, I picked up a 310 and I could have been convinced there are no woofers in it :D
Great sounding too, good choice.
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I got the Epifani UL2-410 and gigged with it. It's an awesome cabinet. It has a crazy amount of low-end response. So far, I'm very pleased.

Mark
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I guess I can't really tell you what to get. I use a Line 6 XT Live board fed into a Mackie 800W Power Amp and use a Yorkville 8x8. Sounds great, but I'll probably be adding a Glockenklang Bass Art Preamp soon. Looking for a more natural sound over the Line 6 board. Not to mention, I have a Special Edition Dingwall ABII 5 String from Guitar X coming to me very soon. It'll be awesome!
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Speaking of Gary at Guitar X, I purchased this rig from him. The Phil Jones M-500 head, 8T cab, and 16B cab. I played it at rehearsal and at a gig this week, it blows away my Ampeg SVT-AV head and 810 rig.

Many thanks to members like TwoPort and others who freely shared advice about PJB. It was a sight unseen (sound unheard) major purchase, similar to buying a Dingwall, many good reviews, but nothing to get your hands on. I am a happy Dingwall, and now PJB 5 inch driver convert!

Oh, yeah, I had to take the cheezy "Pirhana" applique' off the grill. If it had been bugs bunny or the tazmanian devil I would have left it on.


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If my drummer was as muscular as yours, I wouldn't mind the weight either. Enjoy the new rig!
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