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Can someone tell me the pros and cons of the banjo frets? Thanks.
10 years ago
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#23067
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I think I read something about that on the bass specifications page... hang on... ah, here we are: "[b:1xiv0w95]Banjo size Standard[/b:1xiv0w95] We use 18% hard nickel silver fretwire. Lee Sklar turned us onto the benefits of small frets. The advantages are a more woody, less metallic tone, smoother glissandos and a faster feel. Our standard size is “banjo” size. This is the same size as you’d find on most guitars from the 50’s and 60’s. Although its size is smaller than standard bass fretwire, its service life is about the same. [b:1xiv0w95]Mando size Optional[/b:1xiv0w95] We install Mando size fretwire in the Lee Sklar model. These are Leland’s personal favorite size frets. They have an amazing feel – almost fretless like. They are the most woody and smooth sounding frets available. Their service life is very good. Depending on playing style, you can expect 5-10 years of use per set."
10 years ago
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Thanks for the info. How about personal feedback? I don't live anywhere that has a Dingwall supplier. Thanks.
10 years ago
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I don't think anyone here minds them :) No really, don't even be worried about that. I'm not even sure how would I answer to that question, how does a fret feel. Fender frets seem do unnecesarrily huge now, but that's pretty much it, they're just frets. Hopefully someone else can say more.
10 years ago
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My "other" bass is an G&L and the frets seem massive now that I am use to banjo frets. I was a little nervous about premature wear but they actually wear pretty much the same as oversized frets. A plus to Banjo frets are that I am having less buzzing issuses (could also be an issue with my G&L setup), but my left hand just seems to find the notes faster with the Banjo frets. [b:13c7g71e]Sheldon, have you done many re-fret jobs? [/b:13c7g71e]I thought I read somewhere that you haven't had any come into the shop to be redone yet.
10 years ago
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Banjo frets?! Awww, now I'm afraid I'll sound like Bela Fleck. Seriously though, I've never given it a thought. The small frets on Dingwalls are a non-issue.
10 years ago
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I've never really thought specifically about the banjo frets, but I guess it contributes to the overall feel and playability of the bass. I have never had any problems with them and I like the feel.
10 years ago
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I actually found them easier to play. You can use a lighter touch.
10 years ago
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Pros: EVERYTHING. I love them. Cons: Now "normal" size frets feel huge.
10 years ago
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[quote="nad":lini422m]Pros: EVERYTHING. I love them. [b:lini422m]Cons: Now "normal" size frets feel huge[/b:lini422m].[/quote:lini422m] I went to play my G&L L2000 that I have owned and played for the last 10 years..... it felt soo foreign. The last couple months I have been playing nothing but my 5 string ABI and going back to a 4 string, smaller fret spacing and jumbo frets felt soo weird. Fanned banjo frets just feel soo natural now.
10 years ago
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[quote="domestique":2s14ku9k]I went to play my G&L L2000 that I have owned and played for the last 10 years..... it felt soo foreign. The last couple months I have been playing nothing but my 5 string ABI and going back to a 4 string, smaller fret spacing and jumbo frets felt soo weird. Fanned banjo frets just feel soo natural now.[/quote:2s14ku9k] I actually sold an L-2000 that I once loved, once I got my first bass with banjo frets on it. Still loved the sound, but the feel was suddenly all wrong. :!: I'm almost at the point where my new motto has become [b:2s14ku9k]banjo frets, or no frets at all.[/b:2s14ku9k] Seriously, of my three most played basses, two have banjo frets, and the third is fretless. 8)
10 years ago
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[quote="domestique":ytoqum8m]My "other" bass is an G&L and the frets seem massive now that I am use to banjo frets. I was a little nervous about premature wear but they actually wear pretty much the same as oversized frets. A plus to Banjo frets are that I am having less buzzing issuses (could also be an issue with my G&L setup), but my left hand just seems to find the notes faster with the Banjo frets. [b:ytoqum8m]Sheldon, have you done many re-fret jobs? [/b:ytoqum8m]I thought I read somewhere that you haven't had any come into the shop to be redone yet.[/quote:ytoqum8m] I think we've done one re-fret so far. More have probably been done out in the field but none that I've heard of.
10 years ago
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the '02 AB1 I picked up off ebay had obviously been played hard, and when I actually looked closely at the frets I noticed some fairly obvious diagonal scoring from the roundwounds, but aside from the looks, I'm willing to bet if I put a straightedge over the worn parts you wouldn't be able to see any actual height difference, and its all cosmetic from the string angling across the fret instead of being purely perpendicular, there's nothing wrong with how it plays.
10 years ago
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It's been discussed before; the fret wear looks worse than it actually is on the fanned frets. In fact, it is actually no worse than any other straight fretted bass.
10 years ago
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exactly. when I looked at them upon receiving the bass I was somewhat horrified that I was going to have to refret this brand new-to-me bass, but after feeling them and looking across the top, it was obvious that it was purely cosmetic and there was absolutely nothing mechanically wrong with it where it would affect playability.
10 years ago
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Sklar here....I have been using mando frets since 1974. Love the feel. I first put them on my 'Frankenstein' bass. I have used that bass on probably 80% of all the work I have done and am on my third refret. And I play pretty hard.love them. That along with always using a .40 G string .... Can I hear greasy?
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