Sunday, 09 August 2009
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My band gets the opportunity to open for some well known acts, either on the way up or on the way down, and while we are talking set lists, logistics, time limits on our stage time, I always end with the joke, "Well, I guarantee no matter how good the bass player is, I bet he doesn't have a Dingwall or a Phil Jones rig!" I know that most professional players are righteously proud of their gear, but honestly, I watch the big boys and their Fender Custom Shop Precisions, Jazzes, and standard Ampeg SVT and matching 810 cabs and wonder if they had the opportunity would they not jump at the chance to try a Dingwall? (BTW I hope I'm not being a snob, I have both a '66 Precision and an Ampeg SVT AV head and matching 810 that no longer gets used except on Sunday worship)!! I've offered when asked about my AB1 fiver, but am always turned down, understandably so I guess, they are about to hit the stage and don't want to experiment with foreign concepts in the heat of the moment. Anyone with similar stories, maybe some Dingwall convert stories with the act you were opening for?
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I don't know, man. Snob is a harsh word :) A bass that gets the job done is enough for some people. Some people don't case about neck dive, string balance, buzzing pickups etc and are only out there to play. I'm out there to enjoy myself, and gear I like makes it so much better. I like to think that I'm a gearhead - I enjoy bass, but gear as well. My gear surpasses my basic needs for bass. Almost anything but a single 4 string Squire or SX can satisfy basic bass needs, but I enjoy more. That's all there is to it. Is everyone not driving a Yugo a car snob? Or everyone driving a Lexus for that matter? A gear snob refuses to play anything but his/her chosen gear and makes elitist comments about anything else. Just owning better doesn't make you a snob, it's acting like one. .. Also, Dingwalls ARE better than anything else, period :roll:
12 years ago
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I agree gear snob is probably too harsh, I already own most of what I see other bassists using. I am attempting to expose as many players as I can to dingwall goodness without coming off as I have better ____ than you. For pete's sake, I carry my precious dinger and phil jones stuff around in a 1986 Nissan pickup with a camper shell and "appalloosa" paint scheme mixed with rust. I would like to hear stories where you opened for a band that you love, the bass player saw your Dingwall and actually played it, either before the show or made a cameo appearance on stage with it!
12 years ago
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I'm not a gear snob. I have Fenders, Fender clones, a Ric that I use regularly. Even my trusty '64 Danelectro Longhorn gets some gig time. They all have roles to fill and they do their "thing" like no other basses will. However, I [i:1eiebwme]am[/i:1eiebwme] a car snob. Here's mine, current and future, the Challenger coming later this year. :) Mark
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[quote="guitarded":1vxe0dev]I'm not a gear snob. I have Fenders, Fender clones, a Ric that I use regularly. Even my trusty '64 Danelectro Longhorn gets some gig time. They all have roles to fill and they do their "thing" like no other basses will. However, I [i:1vxe0dev]am[/i:1vxe0dev] a car snob. Here's mine, current and future, the Challenger coming later this year. :) Mark[/quote:1vxe0dev] Man, I love that wagon! That's even the color I want! I wish they had kept that car in production.
12 years ago
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[quote="rollerberg2000":236ps2mf][quote="guitarded":236ps2mf]I'm not a gear snob. I have Fenders, Fender clones, a Ric that I use regularly. Even my trusty '64 Danelectro Longhorn gets some gig time. They all have roles to fill and they do their "thing" like no other basses will. However, I [i:236ps2mf]am[/i:236ps2mf] a car snob. Here's mine, current and future, the Challenger coming later this year. :) Mark[/quote:236ps2mf] Man, I love that wagon! That's even the color I want! I wish they had kept that car in production.[/quote:236ps2mf] Well, in typical fashion of the day, shooting themselves in the foot, Dodge introduced the Charger, and that helped kill the Magnum. The Magnum was a controversial design from the beginning - people either loved it or hated it, mostly hated it, I think. In the end, it's all about how you bend the metal (or cut the wood :) ), and whether people will like how you bent (cut) it. There simply weren't enough of us who thought the Magnum was the coolest car on the planet to keep it alive. Cars and guitars. It's hard to for me tp separate the two. I guess that's typical of rock and rollers, like it has been since the 50's, at least here in the US. There are other car nuts on the forum, one who has commissioned a special Dingwall, the design inspired by one of the most exotic supercars in the world. Sheldon is, apparently, crazy enough about cars to build it. Rock on, boys. :wink: Mark
12 years ago
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[quote="rollerberg2000":3hxb0v2y]I hope I'm not being a snob, I have both a '66 Precision and an Ampeg SVT AV head and matching 810 that no longer gets used except on Sunday worship!![/quote:3hxb0v2y] You play an SVT rig for Sunday worship??? What kind of church is this?
12 years ago
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When the Magnum came out I thought "oh I get it...they've fooled guys into thinking station wagons are cool." Now, I love station wagons (my first car love was a 1985 Peugeot 505s wagon (black, bronze tinted windows), but the 'powwaaaah' bent of their advertising kind of turned me off. I last year when I bought a car I ended up with a Honda Element, which did a few things...I can now don't have to stress the size of my rig, I can drive safely all winter, and I can do so with decent gas mileage. Anyway, I don't think of myself as a gear snob. I used to be really into vintage and still think there's a very particular beauty to it. Instead, I feel like I'm not on the same continuum as most bass players. I don't have any real interest in straight fret/fretless instruments and I don't have any interest in fours any more. I'm happy to see people play what they like, but I don't expect them to understand or be interested in my 'musical trip'. When they express interest in my bass, I encourage them to try it. But, you know...when someone hands me their Precision, Jazz, SG, Stingray etc...I've been there. Not really a revelatory moment to me to hold one. As long as they sound good and they like the way they sound and their instrument feels, I'm happy for them.
12 years ago
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It's fun to think about how my new bass cost a little more than a third of my new truck, and it won't be that many years until the former is worth more than the latter :? [img:3cyiciit]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/cheamo/truck.jpg[/img:3cyiciit]
12 years ago
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I'm wanting a Dingwall something bad, but I don't play enough to really care about the nuances of tone that random other basses have - give me a good bass that sounds the way I want it, and a good amp to play that sound well, and I'm happy. Probably most of the reason I want a Dingy is for playability more than sound, but that'll change once I get one I'm sure. [quote="BurningSkies":29lllukj]When the Magnum came out I thought "oh I get it...they've fooled guys into thinking station wagons are cool." [/quote:29lllukj] What's that supposed to mean? ;)
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12 years ago
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I would agree that " snobs " is too strong a word. It seems to me from reading the forum, that the people who own Dingwalls are the type of musician who is always striving to be better. I have a fair amount of nice equipment. Why? Because I'm at a point in my life that I can afford it AND I feel that nice/good equipment makes me strive to be a better player. Ultimately, it's all about the sound. How you get there is your own journey to make however round-about it may be.
12 years ago
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[quote="TheGrandEnigma":21lm04yl][quote="BurningSkies":21lm04yl]When the Magnum came out I thought "oh I get it...they've fooled guys into thinking station wagons are cool." [/quote:21lm04yl] What's that supposed to mean? ;)[/quote:21lm04yl] A fool is born every minute, huh? It sounds like he's one of the people that don't like the Magnum. 0-60 in 5.8 is pretty cool, at least I think so. (All the car companies advertise in a way to promote their powerful models. Why shouldn't Dodge? Don't forget about the Acura(Honda) NSX) Also cool is the fact that the Magnum will hold a Mackie 15in powered sub, a 410 bass cabinet, an 8 space SKB rack case, two 12in wedge floor monitors, 4 basses in gig bags, and assorted bags, stands, and [i:21lm04yl]stuff[/i:21lm04yl], with room for a passenger to ride comfortably up front, everything protected from the weather, and getting about 25mpg on the highway. Some people hate the Gibson Thunderbird...go figure. But to mention the Magnum and the 505 wagon in the same post with the word "cool"? The Peugeot doesn't even register on the warm scale in comparison. Not sure I'd even admit to having owned one :P . However, I did have a very nice Peugeot road bicycle back in the day, until somebody cut the lock and took it. :cry: Here's another wagon I like, the 2010 Cadillac CTS Sportwagon. I'm considering one of these when I finally wear out the Magnum, but I'm not sure I'm ready for the old-man, country club, yellow polo shirt image that can come with driving a Cadillac. That's [i:21lm04yl]not[/i:21lm04yl] cool. :oops: Mark
12 years ago
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I've always had a woodie for wagons, since riding in a '68 Vista Cruiser (with the glass panels in the roof) as a child. Here's the '07 Suzuki Kizashi concept wagon. Sadly, they have greatly tamed the styling of the 2010 production version Kizashi, and the wagon is on hold. Bad decision, IMO. They had a beautiful idea there. Mark
12 years ago
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And when, and if, i ever get to own some vintage Americal iron again, this will be it: Mark
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12 years ago
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Actually, I didn't mind the Magnum. I think its a great looking car.I see a bunch of them around here. What really turns me off is that they blatantly aimed at dudes crotches with the 'power play' along with never ever mentioning it was a station wagon. Its not a dirty word. My 505s was similar, but not just like this: [img:swnqfb6e]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/24/88819908_b5e506b08d.jpg[/img:swnqfb6e] Mine was black and the sports edition, which had better appointments (really nice leather interior and a 8 speaker blaupunkt stereo). I have no problems admitting that it fit a 3x15 cab along with a drum kit, a JC-120 and all of our guitars in it for road trips. It also was good for 200K miles. After that, it got too much for me to afford due to the cost of an import mechanic and the cost of import parts.
12 years ago
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My friend once asked me if I would prefer a mini-van or a station wagon. He then realized that he was IN MY STATION WAGON (well, technically 5 door hatch back but it looks wagon-esque). And yes, when I can fit a full size ladder INSIDE my car, that garners respect for said car. (sorry for the derail :oops: )
12 years ago
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You guys should ask if you can get a seperate estate car forum here.
12 years ago
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I don't think I am a gear snob. Whatever gets the job done and if you are happy with your gear, it doesn't really matter what it is. I have always enjoyed having good stuff, which unfortunately often tends to be more expensive stuff, but I never think less of a player for playing less expensive stuff. As for cars, I am more of a "from point A to point B" type of guy. Reliability and minimum frills for me. Right now, that happens to be a Corolla.
12 years ago
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not a gear snob if you dont look down on other ppl's gear. and yes, often a 250$ bass would do the job just as well for most of the crowd :o
12 years ago
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[quote="BurningSkies":2kc1nequ]Actually, I didn't mind the Magnum. I think its a great looking car.I see a bunch of them around here. What really turns me off is that they blatantly aimed at dudes crotches with the 'power play' along with never ever mentioning it was a station wagon. Its not a dirty word.[/quote:2kc1nequ] From the beginning, most wagons weren't dubbed as such. The VistaCruiser and the old Caprice wagon, indeed of all the American wagons I can think of, few, if any, were called out as a wagon with nameplates that said "wagon". It doesn't have to be spelled out, it's a simple matter to look and see. I'm sure Dodge didn't avoid using the description "wagon" because they were afraid of the term, or that they were trying to pull a fast one hoping that nobody would notice, as you have implied. It's obvious that it's a wagon, and Dodge never marketed it otherwise. As far as the crotch-aiming goes, that's exactly what most guitar designers are going for, wouldn't you agree? A design that kicks you in the nads (like a CAG Dingwall does :) ) and makes you GAS for it is the goal, whether it's a car or a guitar. Who want's boring design? Mark
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[quote="davio":r2e1yij9][quote="rollerberg2000":r2e1yij9]I hope I'm not being a snob, I have both a '66 Precision and an Ampeg SVT AV head and matching 810 that no longer gets used except on Sunday worship!![/quote:r2e1yij9] You play an SVT rig for Sunday worship??? What kind of church is this?[/quote:r2e1yij9] That '70's Church? :lol:
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