Wednesday, 23 April 2008
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Am I out of my mind? :shock: :oops: I just bought a Z2 4 string off the Evil Bay. It is not anywhere near as fancy as some that I've seen going out the door lately. And clearly it's somewhat vintage given the Barts. It doesn't even have the "D" decal on the head stock. A few pics: [img:3tbawhs8]http://i15.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/eb/b0/8211_1.JPG[/img:3tbawhs8] [img:3tbawhs8]http://i19.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/eb/b0/8256_1.JPG[/img:3tbawhs8] [img:3tbawhs8]http://i24.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/eb/b0/8374_1.JPG[/img:3tbawhs8] Looks like Serial No. 5016. Anybody know how old it is? Looks like a Pau Ferro board, but hard to tell for sure. And I know, it's only a 4 string, but I love my ABII-5 with the FD1s in it and the mahogany body. So I wanted something different (no competition) and I wanted a four banger for slapping and for a bit more ease of getting around on it while singing. I recently bought an ABI-4 in WPB which is a very nice bass, but when I saw this, I couldn't help but think, here's my chance to move up in the world for what seemed like a reasonable price. Lord knows I am a long ways off from affording some of those masterpieces I've seen on this board lately!! So here is the linky: [url:3tbawhs8]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=230245846726[/url:3tbawhs8] Did I pay too much? Did I do OK? I figure I can upgrade the PUPS to Mach 3s down the road. I just couldn't help but think if I didn't pull the trigger and go for it, somebody was going to (probably Fullie! :lol:). If I like this as much as I think I will, I can always sell the ABI, as it is in virtually new condition. I'd love to keep them both, but I don't think I can afford to. OK, I am now officially in need of rehab! :twisted:
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The other day I was traveling with a bassplayer of mine and we were listening to a recording of mine with my OMT Z2. He had no idea that I was using the Z2. So he asked me if I was using the neck pickup cause it definitely sounded like a P pickup and I told him that I was using the Neck setting of the Z2. Today I read the info sheet that went out with the Z2 and it says that the setting I was using has the P sound!!!!! Yep!!! I am a P man but with the clarity and definition that only a Dingwall can give me!!!
14 years ago
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[quote="fullrangebass":1os3rr2a]I was looking for a Z2 for a long time before I found my first one and I never looked back. It is not a very common Dingwall model but I rank my OMT Z2 being as great as my avatar Z1. Very versatile bass at all levels and I am sure that this 4str is fantastic sounding and playing bass. I am sure that the dents made you sad but as long as you got a fair price and structure-wise is ok I would not feel blue about it. My Villex-loaded Voodoo came with few dents (seller told me everything) and I am most happy with it[/quote:1os3rr2a] I agree Fullie, the Z2s are very versatile. I put a new set of Dingwall strings on her and gave her a nice set-up with medium-low action and took her to rehearsal yesterday. I LOVE the tonal pallette of this bass. The tone I settled on was very ABII-esque but with a slightly more traditional upper end, which I think will be a perfect compliment to my ABII-5 with the very upper mid-aggressive FD1s. Otherwise, just as punchy and and growly on the low end. And playability is just outstanding. I think Sheldon's four strings should get a little more love on this forum than they typically do. They are a joy to play! As for the dingies, they only make me sad from the perspective that Sheldon's basses are works of art and you hate to see them anything but perfect cosmetically. But at the same time, the dingies are not visible from more than a foot away, and mostly on the backside. The bass is still gorgeous!
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Now you guys are getting me excited. I pick up my new Z2 on Monday. My Z1 plays phenomenal, but i can't wait to play the new one. What i am really looking forward to is the difference in tone. I love my Z1 and ABII but i really dig the stingray tone of the Z2.
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I was looking for a Z2 for a long time before I found my first one and I never looked back. It is not a very common Dingwall model but I rank my OMT Z2 being as great as my avatar Z1. Very versatile bass at all levels and I am sure that this 4str is fantastic sounding and playing bass. I am sure that the dents made you sad but as long as you got a fair price and structure-wise is ok I would not feel blue about it. My Villex-loaded Voodoo came with few dents (seller told me everything) and I am most happy with it
14 years ago
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Hey, thanks for all of the info and pics Frank. This bass has a huge tonal range. I am really loving it. And it plays like a dream. I am a happy man! :wink:
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Bob-- I'm glad she arrived safe and sound and was too baddly beat up. AS I had said earlier the bass was sitting for along time (prolly yrs), as JoeyGs got it off of Dingwall Sales years back. He told me that a lot of "top" players played the Dingwall basses at his store but none of them ever were bought (he also EBAY'd the Blue Z2 last yr). If you had dealt w/ Mr G you'd be shaking your head. Back in 04, he wanted the sales price of that bass to be the same price as what it sold for the day it was made, and refused to budge. I had emails to him (the same time I was starting to contact sheldon about making the SuperJ)going back years and he refused extremely generous offers. ENJOY This is from the "frank "file-- an original official photo of the bass. Hope its not too big
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14 years ago
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Well, she has arrived and she is far more beautiful then those pics I posted from the Ebay listing. I kind of expected a few dings that weren't disclosed based on the price, and I was right. It looks like this bass took a nasty spill off a stand onto its backside. The seller did post a pic of the dingies on the back around the neck bolts. Nearby, there is a small dent on the back that doesn't break the finish that you couldn't see given the no doubt purposely poorly taken pics. Also a small ding by the top of the horn. Otherwise, from the front, the top looks pristine. There are three small dents on the back of the neck. Not enough to feel while playing and only one is at all significant when running your hand over the neck. None of them come close to breaking the neck finish, so no biggee. A little wax would probably make at least two them smooth and the other hard to detect. Maybe I can have the neck refinished some day. But, I was expecting this, especially when the seller offered to (and did) pay the state tax on the transaction when I complained! So I'm not at all disappointed. She is in good hands now! My first reaction in holding her was wow, you can really feel the upgrade in quality. Not that my ABs aren't great quality, but the Zs are clearly a cut above. And she weighs NOTHING! Just playing her unplugged I can tell how awesome she will sound plugged in. So resonant and the neck is lightening fast. She should be scary smooth with a new set of strings and a set-up. Now I'm off to my rehearsal space to play her through my rig. Can't wait. One thing I'm pretty sure of. There will be a near mint ABI-4 in Whale Pool Blue coming on the market in a week or two. Much as I wish I could keep two fours, I just can't do it.
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Thanks Mr. Bass. Thanks Frank. Glad to hear that the Z2s have the same scale lengths as the ABIIs even though they have a couple less frets. Well, she's on a Fed Ex vehicle and out for delivery. I need to get some work done so I can bail for the rest of the afternoon once she arrives. Of course, knowing my luck with Fed Ex lately, it will arrive at the latest possible time and there will be something damaged by them. :roll:
14 years ago
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Bob- The Dingwall 4 bangers have the same scale as a 5 string, minus one string. i.e., the E string is 36.25". So honestly you prolly could use whatever set of string you wanted as long as they are long or Xl. My SuperJ 4 banger has the exact same scale (36.25), and I've tried a bunch of strings on it (remember mine is the prototype and different than production). oh right i also wanted to mention -how extremely light, and responsive that bass was-it just killed
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Congrats on a great looking bass!
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[quote="fullrangebass":1urj7stw]You made your move before I had the chance to post the finding. And I am happy it came into the hands of a Dingaholic :wink:[/quote:1urj7stw] Thanks Fullie! You know I give you a hard time but it's all in fun. :wink:
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[quote="guitarded":kkt5qe1d][quote="BuffaloBob":kkt5qe1d]BTW Mark, Gorgeous Z3 you got yourself there! And I can see why you would think the Z2 I just purchased as cute! :wink:[/quote:kkt5qe1d] Thanks. Let me know if you get bored with it- it would look great beside mine. :) Mark[/quote:kkt5qe1d] Funny, I was thinking the same, only the other way around! :twisted: No actually, I really did think about it from your perspective and was glad I caught it before you, because I figured that would certainly have gone through your mind if it went through mine. What kind of strings are people using on their Zs? I assume the standard Dingwall Voodoos fit, but are the scale lengths on the Zs the same as the ABs, or are they a bit shorter because of the 22 vs. 24 frets? I posted this over in Strings, but haven't heard from anyone yet, so I thought I would fish for answers over here as well.
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[quote="BuffaloBob":2w6dzt3j]BTW Mark, Gorgeous Z3 you got yourself there! And I can see why you would think the Z2 I just purchased as cute! :wink:[/quote:2w6dzt3j] Thanks. Let me know if you get bored with it- it would look great beside mine. :) Mark
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You made your move before I had the chance to post the finding. And I am happy it came into the hands of a Dingaholic :wink:
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[quote="fullrangebass":n9weot3d]I am close to being GAS free. The FRB Z3 is taking a long time to explore and I have couple of other Dingwalls on the way that deserve some time too. Having said that... I am not DAS free[/quote:n9weot3d] Ahhh, so you were otherwise occupied at the moment. That was good for me!
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I am close to being GAS free. The FRB Z3 is taking a long time to explore and I have couple of other Dingwalls on the way that deserve some time too. Having said that... I am not DAS free
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[quote="fullrangebass":gk7ctmzf]I just love my Z2s and I am sure it's a fantastic bass the one you've got[/quote:gk7ctmzf] Thanks Funk and Fullie. And Fullie, thanks for letting ME have this one! :lol: :wink:
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I just love my Z2s and I am sure it's a fantastic bass the one you've got
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Very cool Buffalo
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[quote="evilgus":mf4b4gst]Nice purchase, I reckon it was very cheap, given the good condition and quality of woods/finish, etc. I was just ogling that last night and definitely would have pulled the trigger if it was a fiver...but then again, who wouldn't! :) So how does it sound???? Hurry man, plug it in!!! :) EG[/quote:mf4b4gst] Hey Gus, I just paid for it today, so it will be a few days before I can plug in and answer that question. But I will let you know as soon as I do! Robert
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