Saturday, 15 March 2008
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Hi! I've been interested in Dingwall basses for awhile and I'm seriously considering making the move. I can see from the forum the enthusiasm you all have for Dingwalls and I'm thinking this would be a good place to get convinced I should make the leap. I'm fairly certain at this point that an ABII 5-string will be the model choice. I do have a concern that the long scale combined with fanned frets will be too difficult on the 5-string considering my hands are probably smaller than average. And, I do like playing chords and chord patterns which is probably more difficult with this design. I have only tried but not owned any 5-string basses; I do have four 4-stringers... I imagine some of you have 'fretted' over similar concerns and I'd appreciate hearing your experiences. I'm not located near any dealers where I could try one...
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[quote="Evolver":iq6xo73n]Well, first thing, is it will be my first Dingwall :lol:! But, it also was ordered with a walnut neck and an x-top.[/quote:iq6xo73n] Ooo, that is going to be special. You're going to love it.
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Well, first thing, is it will be my first Dingwall :lol:! But, it also was ordered with a walnut neck and an x-top.
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[quote="Evolver":cez531to]Just to update, after checking all the leads and talking with a number of dealers, I ended up deciding to place an order for a special ABII. So, there's no longer a question about being a future Dingwall owner! Thanks for all the input and help with this decision!!![/quote:cez531to] What is going to be special about it Evolver?
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Just to update, after checking all the leads and talking with a number of dealers, I ended up deciding to place an order for a special ABII. So, there's no longer a question about being a future Dingwall owner! Thanks for all the input and help with this decision!!!
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Thanks Frank and Stickman! Thanks to the input from the posts here, I now have quite a few options to consider. I'm struggling a bit with understanding the current (versus older) ABII specs especially options (tops, electronics, f-scrolling, etc) vs. std models and then trying to compare pricing, etc. as the basses being considered have some pretty signficant differences... I'm gaining on it though and probably am on the home stretch...
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Hey Evolver... got your message... hope that helped. Enjoy your new Dingwall when you get it... I know you're going to go for it. :D
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Couple of things. Regarding my problem with harmonics, thanks Sheldon. That suggested technique does work for me. The problem is switching quickly between playing "over the top" and conventional technique for the rest of the song. I'll have to practice "Priscilla" by the Yellowjackets to see if I can pull it off Regarding dealers with ABIIs, I was over at Jive Sound a couple of weeks ago, and Jong had a very nice ABII 5 string with a light-colored top, and a couple of AB1.5s (ABIs with the preamp). He is great to deal with so you might give a shout. Good luck.
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Adam and RedDavid: It really nice of you to make the offers! I always enjoy meeting other musicians... I'm about an hour west of Binghamton, so if you're in the area it would be great to meet you if you get a chance to stop by. If you're playing out, let me know how to find the schedule - maybe I'll get a chance to stop in as I do travel to both Rochester and Philadelphia on occasion.
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If you ever get to the Philly suburbs, give me a shout.
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[quote="Adam12Wilcox":u8exv5p3][quote="Evolver":u8exv5p3]Thanks for all the responses! Once you did get accustomed to the longer scale and fanned frets, did you have any problems going back to a typical bass? Though I think I can understand why maybe no one wants to based on what I've heard so far...[/quote:u8exv5p3] As for seeing/trying one... I posted to the forum, and a really swell guy who strongly resembles Burning Skies invited me to his home. How 'bout that? Not sure what you mean by North Central PA, but if you can get yourself to Rochester, NY, you're welcome to try mine. Also, I'm in Binghamton fairly often, and could meet you there if that's close. Feel like I owe that to the future Dingwall owners in some Karmic way. adam[/quote:u8exv5p3] Yeah! I've been offering to let people from TalkBass play my Dingwalls too. Sometimes I take one to a music store just to supposedly try out amps :wink: . I'll let anyone interested try it out. It's the opposite of "misery loves company" :D . Sheldon doesn't need help selling basses. But, everyone who owns one feels a need to spread the word.
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[quote="Evolver":2xyp8bde]Thanks for all the responses! Once you did get accustomed to the longer scale and fanned frets, did you have any problems going back to a typical bass? Though I think I can understand why maybe no one wants to based on what I've heard so far...[/quote:2xyp8bde] I've been shocked by just what a non-issue this has been. My fretless is a Turner Renaissance... great bass... terribly different from the Dingwall. I go back and forth all the time and don't think about it. The only place I ever get tripped up on the Dingwall is low strings above 12th fret, but c'mon... what's a bass player doin' there anyway? As for seeing/trying one... I posted to the forum, and a really swell guy who strongly resembles Burning Skies invited me to his home. How 'bout that? Not sure what you mean by North Central PA, but if you can get yourself to Rochester, NY, you're welcome to try mine. Also, I'm in Binghamton fairly often, and could meet you there if that's close. Feel like I owe that to the future Dingwall owners in some Karmic way. adam
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Call Gary at Guitar X. That is all I feel free to say... :wink:
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Thanks for the leads John!
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[quote="Evolver":k6h4p53t]I've been searching dealers and the internet and there aren't many ABII's in stock... 8)[/quote:k6h4p53t] Perhaps you know about these, but here are a couple: http://www.jivesound.com/home/index.php ... temId=5525 http://www.basscentral.com/2003/dingwall.shtml Also, if you call around, you might find a dealer who is expecting an ABII delivery soon.
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[quote="Funkshwey":1rpggx2i] My 1st ABII-5 took 4 mos almost to the day as promised. My Fretless ABII-5 was ready in about 10 days. :shock: I was like whoa Sheldon, I'm still selling parallel fretted basses. Maybe Sheldon gets excited w/the prospect of building fretless FF's.[/quote:1rpggx2i] You're reading my mind! :) I am indeed wondering how long I'll end up waiting... Unfortunately, I'm not ready for a fretless - yet...
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[quote="Evolver":mcuh0oc1]Thanks again for all the responses!! Ok, I'm convinced that I should be able to adapt to the fanned frets and 5-string! Now to find the [i:mcuh0oc1]one[/i:mcuh0oc1]... I've been searching dealers and the internet and there aren't many ABII's in stock... Looks like it might be awhile before I could post a picture if I custom order... Thanks for the demo links Maxvintage! They were great! Your tone is awesome on both tracks and your ability outstanding! I ran them through my home studio set-up and was very impressed. 8)[/quote:mcuh0oc1] My 1st ABII-5 took 4 mos almost to the day as promised. My Fretless ABII-5 was ready in about 10 days. :shock: I was like whoa Sheldon, I'm still selling parallel fretted basses. Maybe Sheldon gets excited w/the prospect of building fretless FF's.
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Thanks again for all the responses!! Ok, I'm convinced that I should be able to adapt to the fanned frets and 5-string! Now to find the [i:2yt71x4u]one[/i:2yt71x4u]... I've been searching dealers and the internet and there aren't many ABII's in stock... Looks like it might be awhile before I could post a picture if I custom order... Thanks for the demo links Maxvintage! They were great! Your tone is awesome on both tracks and your ability outstanding! I ran them through my home studio set-up and was very impressed. 8)
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[quote="amodeo@mitre.org":jhvdsm9t]There are some things that I just cannot do on the Dingwall. For example, I like to play a G on the E-string (3rd fret) with my index finger, and lay my pinkie finger lightly across the 5th fret of the G and D strings and get those harmonics (while holding the low G). No problem on a 34 inch scale parallel fretted bass, but the DW, the combination of the added scale length and the angle that I need to make with the pinkie to hit both harmonics cleanly makes it a real stretch.[/quote:jhvdsm9t] This might not work in a lot of situations, but try reaching over the neck, pinky on the G, index on the harmonics.
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Let me jump in here as well. I, like several others here, also have relatively small hands. My ABII -5 was also my first 5-string, so when I got it I had to get used to the fanned frets as well as the fifth string. Neither was a problem. As many have pointed out, it doesn't take long to get used to the fanned frets and the longer scale length. Playing up high requires the most compensation, but this has not been a problem either. There are some things that I just cannot do on the Dingwall. For example, I like to play a G on the E-string (3rd fret) with my index finger, and lay my pinkie finger lightly across the 5th fret of the G and D strings and get those harmonics (while holding the low G). No problem on a 34 inch scale parallel fretted bass, but the DW, the combination of the added scale length and the angle that I need to make with the pinkie to hit both harmonics cleanly makes it a real stretch. OK, maybe it is just that one thing that I can't do, and maybe I was doing it too much anyway. Not a big deal, but thought I'd mention it since the original post asked. Good luck.
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[quote="Smallmouth_Bass":3722yy0f][quote="Evolver":3722yy0f]Once you did get accustomed to the longer scale and fanned frets, did you have any problems going back to a typical bass?[/quote:3722yy0f] Yeah, they feel wimpy! :lol: I personally have had no problems switching back and forth.[/quote:3722yy0f] I switch back and forth from Dingwall AB-I 5 or 6 string to my Lakland 5 string, all the time. I practice with my band twice a week, and usually alternate just because I love my Lakland too! And I must say the Lakland is THE ONLY non-Dingwall that I've played that is good enough to make me leave a DW in it's case. They are totally different animals, though!!
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